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Old 04-17-2019, 09:17 PM
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I can see this happening. The cheapest way for GM to give you a small hp bump keeping essentially everything else unchanged/cheap is to increase stroke or bore a bit. GM always does just enough to get by, especially on base models. This will be an uninteresting base model engine then. I guess they could have done nothing but the competition upped the horsepower so it has to at least keep up with Ford and Dodge. GM's budget went towards the DOHC engine, very business like approach.
At 490, the LT2 will be the highest HP of the N/A engines from Ford (480) and Dodge (485) so GM's bragging rights are intact. For those who love N/A engines, these are the best of times.
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:26 PM
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6162 cc is 6.162L, so if you're only going to show one decimal place, rounding 6.162 to 6.2 makes perfect sense to me.
You're right. I must have missed that day in class

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Old 04-17-2019, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII View Post
Dodge Hemi 6.4L engine cranks 485 hp at 6,100 rpm and 475 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,100 rpm.

490 hp for the 6.3L sounds right with a bit more rpm. Going over 500 hp causes insurance issues.
ah, no. c6 z06, 427 vert and zr1 all eclipsed 500. insurance was relatively cheap, where many paid well under 1000 annually.
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:38 PM
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Why all the hate?

Zerv02 had inside info, proved the inside info from his drawings, which immensely helped with the interest of the C8 for months! He was literally the only source of inside info besides the mule photos since November.

So some of his info was bad, projects get delayed, corporations change their minds, sh*t happens, ... Now whether he's a GM plant or not, I dont care, I love the gossip, I love the inside info - even if it doesnt turn out to be true, it's all so much fun to talk about. I much prefer Zer02's approach to Zora_Vette's 100% negativity - the ole' macho-internet-bully BS gets old real quick.

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Only 490 HP? Now I'm getting sad. GM has to keep up with at least the GT350 (535 HP) - just doesn't make any sense. While I haven't been a fan of test mules, the newer C8s in camo are looking better, and if the rear quarter isn't so hideous and it has over 500 HP, I'll be trading my GS on one pretty quick.
Keep in mind how GM always does things: slow, medium, fast. $, $$, $$$. So I think the base model c8 will be under 500 HP. Not to say that they won't bump up the HP in a couple of years, a la 2007 too 2008 transition from LS2 to LS3.

I think 490 HP on the base model is a reasonable guess, and maybe this plate number is a coincidence and has nothing to do with it. GM has probably not finalized the SAE numbers on it yet, maybe 490 is a target. Who knows. 7/18/2019.
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:44 PM
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ah, no. c6 z06, 427 vert and zr1 all eclipsed 500. insurance was relatively cheap, where many paid well under 1000 annually.
If you buy a Z06 or ZR1 and drive 90% on public roads, you don't need the extra HP. So you are paying for insurance that is doing nothing. If you drive on the track, the insurance doesn't cover you. So again, paying for nothing.
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Old 04-18-2019, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII View Post
At 490, the LT2 will be the highest HP of the N/A engines from Ford (480) and Dodge (485) so GM's bragging rights are intact. For those who love N/A engines, these are the best of times.
I think the C8 team is shooting for a higher benchmark than the specific output of outclassed muscle cars and their V8's. I believe they are shooting for a mid-engine competitor's output, perhaps the McLaren 540C, at 533 hp. I also think they're targeting the 911 Turbo's 540 hp. I don't know about the supposed Easter Egg License Plate. Could be part of the deception as well. Maybe it is the torque spec, albeit at a higher peak rpm than the LT1 (7000 rpm).
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Old 04-18-2019, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CorvettoBrando View Post
I think the C8 team is shooting for a higher benchmark than the specific output of outclassed muscle cars and their V8's. I believe they are shooting for a mid-engine competitor's output, perhaps the McLaren 540C, at 533 hp. I also think they're targeting the 911 Turbo's 540 hp. I don't know about the supposed Easter Egg License Plate. Could be part of the deception as well. Maybe it is the torque spec, albeit at a higher peak rpm than the LT1 (7000 rpm).
Yes, I think there will be two engines very soon. First the LT2 at 490hp will be the launch engine at $70K. Then the LT4 will follow in a car that is well into 6 figures and faster than a ZR1 on the track and strip.
Mary Barra said that the "iconic" Z06 paves the way for the C8 and her meaning was clear.
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII View Post
At 490, the LT2 will be the highest HP of the N/A engines from Ford (480) and Dodge (485) so GM's bragging rights are intact. For those who love N/A engines, these are the best of times.
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ah, no. c6 z06, 427 vert and zr1 all eclipsed 500. insurance was relatively cheap, where many paid well under 1000 annually.
This ^, what GM did a decade and a half ago with the LS7 is still a more attractive engine that the LT2 with DI but no port injection to clean the valves and VVT lifters. It's a heavier engine than the LS7, less powerful, with less character, idle chatter from the DI injectors and clogged valves down the road.

In addition to all of that you neglect the flat plane crank Ford V8, which is again a very desirable engine, move powerful, na. The only bragging rights are for C8 owners vs. C7 owners, diminutive bragging rights. Do you really see a LT2 owner who used to own an LT1 getting that excited to take the checkbook out again over a small displacement bump?
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:47 PM
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Yes, I think there will be two engines very soon. First the LT2 at 490hp will be the launch engine at $70K. Then the LT4 will follow in a car that is well into 6 figures and faster than a ZR1 on the track and strip.
Mary Barra said that the "iconic" Z06 paves the way for the C8 and her meaning was clear.
There is absolutely no indication or hint that they will use the LT4 in the C8. Wrong once again, but hey, what else is new?
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:50 PM
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At 490, the LT2 will be the highest HP of the N/A engines from Ford (480) and Dodge (485) so GM's bragging rights are intact. For those who love N/A engines, these are the best of times.
This is wrong as well. Tell me how much hp the GT350 has?
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:54 PM
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Could the LT4 be the engine for the $169K trim?
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Old 04-18-2019, 03:17 PM
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ah, no. c6 z06, 427 vert and zr1 all eclipsed 500. insurance was relatively cheap, where many paid well under 1000 annually.
Under 1000 annually!? You guys are getting the deals. Maybe after my 25th bday coming up I'll get the geezer rates too on my Z

Anyway, regarding the thread, I'm in the 550hp or bust boat too. Even if it means pricier insurance
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