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Old 04-20-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaka


Right. Hood vents for 500hp car. Plus shorter wheel base and retracted wing. I use different cues for certain details. I don't have the patience to do the art work right.
Like the hood venting and think they will have a vent, no rear spoiler or flush retractable, down with that! Where as the side intake looks pretty I just think it is not to inspired. Thanks for the visual though!!

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Old 04-20-2019, 02:07 PM
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I was lurking about on Elegant’s “Stingray forum” and found this concept. I kind of liked it🥺.
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Originally Posted by John T

I was lurking about on Elegant’s “Stingray forum” and found this concept. I kind of liked it🥺.

This is a modified FVS render. Very conservative but I like it.
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Old 04-20-2019, 03:26 PM
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The red car has the perfect wheel well to body panel ratio, the yellow car does not.
Old 04-20-2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by John T
The red car has the perfect wheel well to body panel ratio, the yellow car does not.

They look pretty similar to me... and I made them both ! ; )

( excluding Shaka’s edits)

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Old 04-20-2019, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
They look pretty similar to me... and I made them both ! ; )

( excluding Shaka’s edits)
FVS, ahh, I should have known. I have always enjoyed your work!

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Old 04-20-2019, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by John T
FVS, ahh, I should have known. I have always enjoyed your work!
He does all the work and then I steal it from him.
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Old 04-20-2019, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikec7z
you and i agree there is an exhaust vent behind the front wheel arch Shaka.
It is a feature from high end sports cars. The flow begins from the front of the car and is ducted behind the wheel and down the side of the car in that trough. There is complete boundary layer attachment into the side scoop which reduces drag drastically. The Coke bottle shape of the C8 allows the side scoop to function but there is still tons of drag.
The F88 side intake captures high pressure because of it's location which is different than the c8. The drag down the side after the front wheel is reduced by air flow conditioners (winglets) at the side of the splitter in front of the frnt wheels. It's way too expensive to go LaFerrari or McLaren. Watch for some clever upstream treatment on the C8 HP cars.
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
They look pretty similar to me... and I made them both ! ; )

( excluding Shaka’s edits)
Wait a second FVS.... you’re saying the distances from the top of the wheel openings to the top fender creases are the same for red and yellow cars. Really? Hummmmm.... won’t be at my CAD station until Monday morning. (I agree with John T. Hoping it’s closer to the red.)
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Originally Posted by Lotsacubes
Wait a second FVS.... you’re saying the distances from the top of the wheel openings to the top fender creases are the same for red and yellow cars. Really? Hummmmm.... won’t be at my CAD station until Monday morning. (I agree with John T. Hoping it’s closer to the red.)
are we talking wheel gap or wheel well top to fender top? I thought John T meant gap. A lot of concern about the gap on some early mules.

The renders do have different fender exposure over the wheel. I think Shaka thinned out the red car a bit.

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Old 04-20-2019, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lotsacubes
Wait a second FVS.... you’re saying the distances from the top of the wheel openings to the top fender creases are the same for red and yellow cars. Really? Hummmmm.... won’t be at my CAD station until Monday morning. (I agree with John T. Hoping it’s closer to the red.)
Lotsa, I believe that Shaka tweaked FVS’s “red” render. In an earlier thread Shaka mentioned that he lengthened and lowered the render.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:02 AM
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Ok... makes sense. Both are FVS’ but Shaka squished the red to reduce exposure. I’m hoping for the squished version!

The universe is again in harmony.
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
are we talking wheel gap or wheel well top to fender top? I thought John T meant gap. A lot of concern about the gap on some early mules.

The renders do have different fender exposure over the wheel. I think Shaka thinned out the red car a bit.
FVS, I believe we were speaking about “fender tops” and in this regard I believe the C8 may be less conventional with more of a peaky C3 look.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
are we talking wheel gap or wheel well top to fender top? I thought John T meant gap. A lot of concern about the gap on some early mules.

The renders do have different fender exposure over the wheel. I think Shaka thinned out the red car a bit.
FVS is way more observant that our other 2 artists. Don't let artwork fool you. FVS tries to reveal the actual car which to my mind, is quite horrible. As a designer, all I have done was to put lipstick on a pig.
Like I said before, the cammo boys better be genii.
I pulled the nose forward and move it down a little and widened and reshaped the side glass. I just raised the wheel and wheel arch up to the position that is more pleasing. The side intake makes more aerodynamic sense to me. The top detail of the intake we see from the 3 artists, simply can't be functional and will cause a lot of drag. Sides, it looks horrible.




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Old 04-21-2019, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
They look pretty similar to me... and I made them both ! ; )

( excluding Shaka’s edits)
Do you have the original red render?
Old 04-21-2019, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by John T
The red car has the perfect wheel well to body panel ratio, the yellow car does not.
Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
They look pretty similar to me... and I made them both ! ; )

( excluding Shaka’s edits)
I agree with John T. The difference is huge. Anyone who can’t see it is not looking. You created them both but you obviously don’t understand the concept of what John T is talking about...

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Old 04-21-2019, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by C8UR911
I agree with John T. The difference is huge. Anyone who can’t see it is not looking. You created them both but you obviously don’t understand the concept of what John T is talking about...
FCS did not create the design, he just revealed it. Unfortunately, I think he is correct. We shall see soon enough. It's all the golfers fault. For us non golfing sports car lovers, the ME Vette should only have space for a 7 iron.

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Old 04-21-2019, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C8UR911
I agree with John T. The difference is huge. Anyone who can’t see it is not looking. You created them both but you obviously don’t understand the concept of what John T is talking about...

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Originally Posted by Shaka
FVS is way more observant that our other 2 artists. Don't let artwork fool you. FVS tries to reveal the actual car which to my mind, is quite horrible. As a designer, all I have done was to put lipstick on a pig.
Like I said before, the cammo boys better be genii.
I pulled the nose forward and move it down a little and widened and reshaped the side glass. I just raised the wheel and wheel arch up to the position that is more pleasing. The side intake makes more aerodynamic sense to me. The top detail of the intake we see from the 3 artists, simply can't be functional and will cause a lot of drag. Sides, it looks horrible. It's weird.



I hope the rear fenders aren't as high as they appear in the camo cars, and are more like the red car with the arrows above. Hopefully, GM has been padding the rear fenders with foam. I also hoped the window sills would be more like the red car with arrows above, but I doubt they padded that up. I don't know why GM Design feels the need to create cars that are like sitting in a bunker. It's not enhancing the appearance from the outside either.

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I can only imagine they take into consideration safety A little more than the Italians… ; )

I think the rear deck is as we see it. It is not really any higher than the C7 and probably needed for storage. I think it will be attractive when we see the full reveal


Shaka”s edit’s push the design more towards a pure sports car/ roadster with less emphasis on daily functionality.

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