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Old 04-20-2019, 10:47 PM
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Default Agree Tennis!

Let’s see if we are right at 500-525 hp!
Old 04-20-2019, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
The Corvette is a proper sports car, not a hill billy drag racer like the Dodges. Horsepower and 0 to 60 times mean very little; its more about lap times at a proper track (ie. with turns).

If they keep the weight down, 500hp will be amazing/perfect for the base C8.
Always get a kick about the track time comments. I don’t think some people on here attend many Corvette functions. Outside of a handful of owners, most are doing good to get in and out of such a low car. Good to dream though. Hell, anyone can drive a car around a track....but to do it well is a different story. Most would be just as quick in a Chevy Cruz.
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
Always get a kick about the track time comments.

I don’t think some people on here attend many Corvette functions. Outside of a handful of owners, most are doing good to get in and out of such a low car. Good to dream though. Hell, anyone can drive a car around a track....but to do it well is a different story. Most would be just as quick in a Chevy Cruz.
That's why a Corvette is one of the few cars I would buy used.

Most are driven with a ***** behind the wheel.

Even though I have a Corvette, these Vette drivers seem to be the slowest ***** on the road.

Hit the gas *****!

Edit: With that said, we do have a lot of Porsche, Bentley drivers here in downtown Chicago that are always on the phone and drive for ****.

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Old 04-20-2019, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bandctaylorare
When can we expect the Z06 or ZR1 version of the C8? I love the look of the new C8 but 500 horses is disappointing.
You're joking, right?
Old 04-20-2019, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tennis & Golf Nut
I don't think you understand ME cars.

500HP in a C8 will get you mid 3 seconds 0-60MPH and the quarter mile in the 11's.

That's the base car for $65,000 or less.

This isn't a C7 with Traction issues.
He doesn't understand cars in general...
Old 04-21-2019, 12:22 AM
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The armchair Internet forums create any number of street racing Billy badasses, that win all sorts of races from their keyboards. Most don't even own a C7 I've noticed. Still, they terrorize the forums with their thirst for beating the competition that they'll never race.
Old 04-21-2019, 01:10 AM
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Here are some real world numbers as a FYI:
My 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT with the stock 140 hp V6 can match the 0-30 time of the 345 hp 1997 C5 (2.2 seconds). Yes, the Fiero is about 500 pounds lighter, but this will show how much better a ME can launch. 500 hp in a ME will be a monster.

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Old 04-21-2019, 01:19 AM
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C8.R Future HP could be indication of what is coming down the pike ....

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/04/...s-regulations/
Old 04-21-2019, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tennis & Golf Nut
I don't think you understand ME cars.

500HP in a C8 will get you mid 3 seconds 0-60MPH and the quarter mile in the 11's.

That's the base car for $65,000 or less.

This isn't a C7 with Traction issues.
Can't speak to the LT1, but the LT4 in the Z06 chassis massively overpowers its grip.
Without most of the electronics ON, I wouldn't want to drive it...it just wouldn't be any fun.
It's so easy to go thru rear tires on the thing.

Originally Posted by LLK
. Maybe a better measurement in today's world is 0-100.
I agree.
However, manufacturers can't indirectly imply breaking the law is OK to their customers.

Originally Posted by Murray Anderson
I’m wondering how many Z06 owners would “downgrade” to a 500 hp ME car or is the wait for more HP worth it?
I would happily "downgrade" to 500hp...just not to a LT engine.
If GM offered a naturally asperated DOHC of 5.5L or less, I would consider dumping my Z.
Old 04-21-2019, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 92mr2turbo
Since we're talking 0-60, if the ME weighs something similar as the C7 with the same horsepower 455/460 it will still be faster 0-60 than the C7. The reason is traction from a stop and the DCT.
You are giving far too much credit to the DCT - a modern torque converter automatic in a high hp car is probably faster in acceleration because there is no decoupling of the drive train during a shift, which a zero power aerodynamic slowing event (especially in a high downforce vehicle) is a substantial negative.
Once we get the 335/30/20 rear tires on the up level C8, acceleration will be fantastic - I am not as convinced with the smaller width tires on the upcoming base C8 that it will be more than 0.2-0.3 seconds faster 0-60 than the current GS's 3.6 second time
Old 04-21-2019, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Darion
Only 500hp, lol. Wait and see how many end up in ditches or up the curb into a pole at cars and coffee. 500hp is no joke and although every driver thinks they are better than they are, limited talent runs out fast, stupid doesn't help either.

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Although Ive only tracked mine once but its scary when you realize how easy the ZR1 is to drive and drive hard.

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Old 04-21-2019, 11:21 AM
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If the 500hp range is good enough for IMSA non-protptype divisions and most NASCAR Cup tracks, its certainly good enough for the average Corvette driver.

I think people forget how much power 500 ponies really is sometimes.
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:20 PM
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Yep, folks seem to forget that all the GTPro/GTLM cars in FIA/WEC (e.g. Le Mans) and IMSA Weathertech (e.g. Daytona, Sebring, etc.) are limited to about 500HP by rule.

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Old 04-21-2019, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Darion
Only 500hp, lol. Wait and see how many end up in ditches or up the curb into a pole at cars and coffee. 500hp is no joke and although every driver thinks they are better than they are, limited talent runs out fast, stupid doesn't help either.

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Great point!!! Look at how many Stingrays & ZO6 Hertz rents that never make it back to the rental lot in one piece? Many get totaled like this ZO6?



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Originally Posted by punky
Interesting. So the C8 with at least 40 more HP(likely more) than the current Sting Ray will be slower 0-60. Is that because a ME sports has less traction than a FE? LOL.
O to 60 is going to depend more on weight, track, tires and temperature then it will on where the engine is located. That said the Chevy number for the current base model Corvette is 3.7s, so that would not be slower.

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Old 04-21-2019, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 92mr2turbo
Since we're talking 0-60, if the ME weighs something similar as the C7 with the same horsepower 455/460 it will still be faster 0-60 than the C7. The reason is traction from a stop and the DCT.
Why would the DTC help with that? Dragsters generally prefer an automatic because of the torque multiplication that comes with a torque converter. In acceleration from a standstill, that usually more than makes up for the hp you lose to run the hydraulic pump.
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Originally Posted by auburn2
O to 60 is going to depend more on weight, track, tires and temperature then it will on where the engine is located. That said the Chevy number for the current base model Corvette is 3.7s, so that would not be slower.
Amazing how not too long ago 0-60 in 5.5-6.0 seconds was crazy fast and now 3.5-4.0 is 2nd tier.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:25 PM
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Oh no only 500 HP ?

Lets be real here. The vast majority of people who drive Corvettes do not have the talent needed to maximize the capabilities of the current base model. Hell many are afraid to drive the things in rain or on cold days.

But I guess the extra few hundred horsepower are critical for those blasts out of the local cars and coffee.
Old 04-21-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by z06inVB
Oh no only 500 HP ?

Lets be real here. The vast majority of people who drive Corvettes do not have the talent needed to maximize the capabilities of the current base model. Hell many are afraid to drive the things in rain or on cold days.

But I guess the extra few hundred horsepower are critical for those blasts out of the local cars and coffee.
Are you joking? Everyone here is an amazing and experienced track driver and NEEDS way more power than 500 HP.

I completely agree, we argue about the need for golf club space and NVH being too much on one breath and then cry that 500HP is disappointing on the next. It's kind of crazy when you think about it. 500HP is beyond anything needed on the street. It's bragging rights at the water cooler. 500HP in a ME C8 will be a beast and more car than the vast majority here have even close to the skill to truly handle... but many won't believe that or admit it. If it weren't for the electronic nannies in cars these days, every second C8 would be wrapped around a tree.

P.S. Not suggesting more isn't a fun idea and will sell cars because we know it will... just suggesting suggesting 500HP isn't enough is just silly.

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Old 04-21-2019, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by magls2
The point is LS engines are easy to increase the HP IF needed. It is not a big deal, (we have the technology) if you want to pay to supercharge or turbo charge.
I some what agree that the C8will be fine at 500HP, but this does not mean all corvette owners "hillbillies , weekend warriors and people want to push the envelope" included will be satisfied at 500 HP when 700HP is possible on the after market. We do not want to bound the infinity.
Not with the highly encrypted ECU. I doubt it will ever get cracked just like the ZR1.


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