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Old 04-30-2019, 04:40 PM
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What if Chevy is implying that the 07.18.19 is a ring time of 7:01.19 which would place it faster then the current american record holder (gen V Viper ACR-e which ran a lap of 7:01.3)?

If they are not releasing two different models at launch this would imply that the z/zr version is most likely going to tear apart the gt2rs's time?

Just a thought..

The red 8 might just signify C8 and the other numbers would be valid for a ring time. Pretty cool if true.

7:01.19 would be the fastest American car around the ring ever.

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Old 04-30-2019, 04:53 PM
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Nah. It's the base model. That's not happening for the base model.
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my estimate is 8 is 8th generation with 99.9999999999999 probability, and .00000000000001 it is something else unfortunately, but my math could be wrong. The ring time of the z06 version, judging by the other top mid/rear engine cars and their power to weight ratios.. like the 720s got a 7:08 with a 3rd party doing it and not on the sticky tires that the gt2 rs used.. z06 power to weight would be 720s at best, since that car is 3100's and z06 will be 3300s if we are lucky, high 3400s if we are unlucky, and the power will prly be 700 and hopefully a bit more. I think with sticky tires and mclaren doing the run could get in gt2 rs territory comfortably, so 7:01 seems reasonable, except if you are that close to under 7 minutes i think they would try really hard to get in the 6 club.. which would be awesome. Certainly the hybrid 1000hp version (zr1?) should be well into the 6's or i would be very surprised/disappointed.

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my estimate is 8 is 8th generation with 99.9999999999999 probability, and .00000000000001 it is something else unfortunately, but my math could be wrong. The ring time of the z06 version, judging by the other top mid/rear engine cars and their power to weight ratios.. like the 720s got a 7:08 with a 3rd party doing it and not on the sticky tires that the gt2 rs used.. z06 power to weight would be 720s at best, since that car is 3100's and z06 will be 3300s if we are lucky, high 3400s if we are unlucky, and the power will prly be 700 and hopefully a bit more. I think with sticky tires and mclaren doing the run could get in gt2 rs territory comfortably, so 7:01 seems reasonable, except if you are that close to under 7 minutes i think they would try really hard to get in the 6 club.. which would be awesome. Certainly the hybrid 1000hp version (zr1?) should be well into the 6's or i would be very surprised/disappointed.
I said the same thing, but if they only release the "first" edition car and follow up in the next 2 years with the other models I can see it actually competing with the gt3rs's time etc..

7:01 for a "Stingray" (or whatever they call it.) would be very impressive. It's just a thought though.
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Old 04-30-2019, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperFan1
I said the same thing, but if they only release the "first" edition car and follow up in the next 2 years with the other models I can see it actually competing with the gt3rs's time etc..

7:01 for a "Stingray" (or whatever they call it.) would be very impressive. It's just a thought though.
oh I see I misunderstood, yeah that would be an incredible time for the base stingray, even the z51 version, unfortunately with a power to weight ratio of about 550hp and 3400 lbs, I am not optimistic. I expect it to do last generation z06 performance if we are lucky and maybe significantly more if we are really lucky. Tadge once said z06 perf of the previous generation is the target for the base model of a next generation.

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In today's video, the very last numbers before 07.18.19 is 07-13-10 a possiblenurburgring lap time. ??

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Not Ring time. According to Doug Fehan, the date of the reveal was chosen based on executive availability.
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McLaren 720S is a beast with more like 800hp (underrated at 710), is light and has $300k of tech behind it. It is basically a hyper car. I would be shocked if the C8 Zora/Zr1 or whatever they are going to call it in a few years would out perform it in any respect. That said lofty goals are nice.
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Originally Posted by Shrike6
Not Ring time. According to Doug Fehan, the date of the reveal was chosen based on executive availability.
Totally agree with you, please stop looking for witch
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Look at the brakes and tires on the car Mary was in at the New York event. Now go look at the brakes and tires on production cars sold today that run anywhere near 7min.

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Well it’s a good thing the reveal date wasn’t in late June, heads would be exploding! Faster than a GT2RS!
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Originally Posted by bigterpsfan
McLaren 720S is a beast with more like 800hp (underrated at 710), is light and has $300k of tech behind it. It is basically a hyper car. I would be shocked if the C8 Zora/Zr1 or whatever they are going to call it in a few years would out perform it in any respect. That said lofty goals are nice.
the hybrid with ~1000hp (assuming rumors are true.. i know) will have roughly the same power to weight ratio, so it would be in the neighborhood, but I agree it still might not beat it, that is all up to where the final specs come out, and driver ability.. and at that point Mclaren will probably have an even better one for 300k. But for half-ish the price, that is an impressive vicinity to be in.

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7:18 is a very plausible and impressive time for a base Z51. That's 20 seconds faster than the 7:38 Mero claims for the C7 Z51 that GM wouldn't publish because they didn't beat the Porsche 911S due to Mero making a couple errors.
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I know looking for a ring time in the release date is a bit of a stretch. But the video that was released today has numbers count similar to that of a stop watch and it's all footage from various tracks, with the footage from the C8 appearing to be from what looks like the 'Ring. But I'm not holding my breath for this actually being a 'Ring time, just fun to talk about.
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I was skeptical at first, but the video really seems to suggest it. I would be poor marketing to setup the video like that and then come out with a 7:2X time. My wager is the car ran the time and then the 7/18 date was chosen accordingly. They're playing from a new playbook now that the car was delayed from the original January reveal plan.
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I was skeptical at first, but the video really seems to suggest it. I would be poor marketing to setup the video like that and then come out with a 7:2X time. My wager is the car ran the time and then the 7/18 date was chosen accordingly.
I'm as big of a believer in road course lap times being important as anyone else, but thinking that is just silly. I have no idea if it ran 7:18 or not, but if it was in the 20s, I wouldn't think a thing about the graphic on the door being "poor marketing"
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Anyone able to recognize the tracks shown in the teaser video? One looked like Nürburgring but I haven't seen enough tracks to be able to make any conclusions.

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Originally Posted by jefnvk
I'm as big of a believer in road course lap times being important as anyone else, but thinking that is just silly. I have no idea if it ran 7:18 or not, but if it was in the 20s, I wouldn't think a thing about the graphic on the door being "poor marketing"
Not the graphic on the door... but how they setup the first teaser promo video, starts with "LET'S GO!" and a stop watch ticking with all the imagery leading up to a 7:18... the date seemed arbitrary at first, but I won't be surprised if the date was picked based on the ring time.

The video shows a C8 with nearly no padding, nearly the full side cove, and all the seams taped i.e. ***** out high speed runs. I'm guessing they were doing more than just aero validation over there. All the published ring pics/videos have cars with no taped seams and fake camo in places, but the car below is one we have never seen.


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Old 05-01-2019, 11:24 AM
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But here is the problem with that theory:

NOTHING escapes the photographers at the Ring. There is no way they could have run an unmasked car and there not be pictures from someone, especially BridgeToGantry.

If they did, they pulled off a miracle no other manufacturer has been able to do.
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
But here is the problem with that theory:

NOTHING escapes the photographers at the Ring. There is no way they could have run an unmasked car and there not be pictures from someone, especially BridgeToGantry.

If they did, they pulled off a miracle no other manufacturer has been able to do.
I agree... but I have never seen the car I posted above until someone did a screen grab from the first teaser video. All the ring stuff had the two cars (vert and coupe) with some fake padding and no taped seams. We have never seen that taped car and the side scoop that uncovered.


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