A new manual transmission speculation for C8
06-28-2019, 10:27 PM
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A new manual transmission speculation for C8
I know that there are plenty of threads out there talking about manual trasmissions, but I just wanted to point out something. The last c7 corvette sold for 2.7 million and one thing I saw, and thought about is this specific c7 had a manual. Could this be because this will be the last vette with a manual?
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07-01-2019, 10:23 PM
Le Mans Master
As mentioned, I think the issue is there isn't anyone making a manual transaxle that can handle the torque output of the Corvette lineup. It sure looks like they optimized the canter console area and controls around no need for a manul. It has a very Mercedes-like "mouse thingy". If the UI was designed around that then they wouldn't be able to completely ditch it for a manual car. That would require a major change in software and controls and trim pieces etc.
Nobody was making an eight speed that would fit into the C7 and handle its power upon introduction either.
Sure, the potential volume for a manual transmission is much smaller, but "nobody's built one yet" doesn't preclude the possibility.
Replacing the horizontal panel on the center console with one designed for a manual is hardly an insurmountable obstacle. It's the easiest part of the problem to solve. Pointing to that panel as evidence there won't be a manual is about as convincing as pointing to the base car's fender as evidence there won't be a Z06.
What seems a safe bet is that if there is a manual transmission, it will cost more.
And if there isn't, it will cost GM sales -- and drive up the value of C7 manuals relative to automatics until the last of us three-pedal fans die off.
I'm certain C8's future doesn't depend on offering a manual transmission.
Just as I'm certain I'd rather own anything with a clutch pedal over a C8 without one.
06-28-2019, 10:28 PM
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Race Director
Could be. Or might mean nothing at all. But most rumors are there will be no manual in the C8.
Seriously. Don't lose any sleep over it.
Seriously. Don't lose any sleep over it.
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06-28-2019, 10:36 PM
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06-28-2019, 11:01 PM
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I know that there are plenty of threads out there talking about manual trasmissions, but I just wanted to point out something. The last c7 corvette sold for 2.7 million and one thing I saw, and thought about is this specific c7 had a manual. Could this be because this will be the last vette with a manual?
Which has ZILCH to do with C8.
06-28-2019, 11:02 PM
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Melting Slicks
The car is offered with a manual transmission till they tell us otherwise.
20 days to go.
I can’t even imagine Tadge doing the press conference ....
Question # 1 will be ,
Where the ef is the manual transmission buddy ?
20 days to go.
I can’t even imagine Tadge doing the press conference ....
Question # 1 will be ,
Where the ef is the manual transmission buddy ?
06-28-2019, 11:45 PM
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I seriously doubt it. It is one of the issues of Mid engine designs. It's a lot easier to put in a complete fly by wire gearbox than a manual. Too many differences. That's not true of a front engine where you have plenty of space to put in the gearbox under the passenger cabin.
06-29-2019, 12:07 AM
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Melting Slicks
The pricetag has far more to do with tax law than any indictment about the upcoming C8.
Remember the first new Supra went in the $2M ballpark too.
Remember the first new Supra went in the $2M ballpark too.
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06-29-2019, 01:35 AM
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I know that there are plenty of threads out there talking about manual trasmissions, but I just wanted to point out something. The last c7 corvette sold for 2.7 million and one thing I saw, and thought about is this specific c7 had a manual. Could this be because this will be the last vette with a manual?
06-29-2019, 02:29 AM
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I seriously doubt it. It is one of the issues of Mid engine designs. It's a lot easier to put in a complete fly by wire gearbox than a manual. Too many differences. That's not true of a front engine where you have plenty of space to put in the gearbox under the passenger cabin.
06-29-2019, 04:48 AM
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06-29-2019, 09:12 AM
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I think in today’s age engineers could figure out how to get a manual trans in a mid engine car if they really had to. I think GM feels the market is just too small to justify the additional costs.
06-29-2019, 09:44 AM
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How?
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06-29-2019, 09:51 AM
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06-29-2019, 09:58 AM
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I still pray for a MT C8 but I don’t think it will happen
06-29-2019, 10:11 AM
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Putting the linkages for a manual transmission is not a big deal.
probably a second year option ..
i want the dct even though ive owned manual transmission sports cars for forty years...
i want the newest technology on my next corvette.
i wouldnt buy a manual transmission if a dct is offered even after enjoying decades of manual transmission corvettes..
all that said...itll be easy to install for gm if they decide the market is calling for it..
not sure stop start technology....hybridization or even meeting emissions and fuel economy is possible all the while eeking out the most hp is possible though...
would anyone be willing to pay more for a lower hp version so gm could produce a manual version...?
i dont think so...
20 percent of c7 buyers did opt for a manual transmission though so we will find out what Sir Tadge has to say...
manual coming later on possibly hear two to meet demand?
anything is possible and its easy to engineer the linkages etc and easy to package in the center tunnel and footwell if they want too.
i had a 1976 lancia scorpion back in the mid seventies and 80s...the required linkage space was nothing and if the italians could do it so could GM...
hehhe...
probably a second year option ..
i want the dct even though ive owned manual transmission sports cars for forty years...
i want the newest technology on my next corvette.
i wouldnt buy a manual transmission if a dct is offered even after enjoying decades of manual transmission corvettes..
all that said...itll be easy to install for gm if they decide the market is calling for it..
not sure stop start technology....hybridization or even meeting emissions and fuel economy is possible all the while eeking out the most hp is possible though...
would anyone be willing to pay more for a lower hp version so gm could produce a manual version...?
i dont think so...
20 percent of c7 buyers did opt for a manual transmission though so we will find out what Sir Tadge has to say...
manual coming later on possibly hear two to meet demand?
anything is possible and its easy to engineer the linkages etc and easy to package in the center tunnel and footwell if they want too.
i had a 1976 lancia scorpion back in the mid seventies and 80s...the required linkage space was nothing and if the italians could do it so could GM...
hehhe...
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06-29-2019, 10:33 AM
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06-29-2019, 10:37 AM
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One question, .....
from the spy photos of the interior that were taken, I really cannot see where a stick would end up, or could be placed. (cup holder area ? )
Looking at the dash center console tells me that there is no real room for a shifter that needs space to be moved around in order to shift.
Take a look at the pictures leaked. There really is no room for a shifter to be placed, unless the center waterfall is removed.--- its too narrow.
I am sorry but I do not think the dash console has room for a shifter.
from the pics it looks way too narrow.
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06-29-2019, 10:41 AM
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OP, I think you're trying to connect dots that just are not there....
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06-29-2019, 10:44 AM
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