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Old 07-04-2019, 09:22 PM
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Interesting that the winning Porsche 911 has a MR engine placement unlike the street 911 which has a RR placement that keeps sneaking toward a MR.
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Old 07-04-2019, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47 View Post
NASCAR - Template car
Indy - one Spec chassis and aero, choice of two engines only
SCCA - $$$$ wins with talented driver over the also rans
TODAY

I think Don was referring to the glory days of each series which, blink and you missed it, were decades ago!
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:47 AM
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It boggles my mind that the Porsches did not get dialed back after 4 wins in a row. When the FGT did that in its inaugural season, they neutered it, and it is now finishing off the podium almost every race.
And who says BoP is used so no one dominates? I do wish, for one race only, ALMS (WEC would never do this), take the BoP off and turn 'em loose. Performance would jump across the table, reliability would enter into the picture, tire wear would be a problem, fuel strategies would mix up, etc. Only problem is the prototypes wouldn't have their huge performance margins, and that wouldn't look good in their eyes.

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Old 07-05-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Laguna Fred View Post
TODAY

I think Don was referring to the glory days of each series which, blink and you missed it, were decades ago!
Yes Laguna, thx for clarifying that. I was referring to the “heyday” when somebody like Granatelli would show up at Indy w a turbine stuffed in a chassis.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr View Post
And who says BoP is used so no one dominates? I do wish, for one race only, ALMS (WEC would never do this), take the BoP off and turn 'em loose. Performance would jump across the table, reliability would enter into the picture, tire wear would be a problem, fuel strategies would mix up, etc. Only problem is the prototypes wouldn't have their huge performance margins, and that wouldn't look good in their eyes.

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BOP will catch up with the Porsches eventually, just like it did to the FGT. They got a pretty good performance bump prior to the beginning of this season.

My statement above was more about being surprised they haven't been dialed back this season. After their 4th straight win at Watkins Glen last weekend, I suspect it will eventually happen, perhaps before Lime Rock, since IMSA didn't mess with the Porsches for the race this weekend in Ontario.

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Old 07-05-2019, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr View Post
And who says BoP is used so no one dominates? I do wish, for one race only, ALMS (WEC would never do this), take the BoP off and turn 'em loose. Performance would jump across the table, reliability would enter into the picture, tire wear would be a problem, fuel strategies would mix up, etc. Only problem is the prototypes wouldn't have their huge performance margins, and that wouldn't look good in their eyes.

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ALMS went away several years ago. Maybe you are thinking (?) about IMSA GTLM
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47 View Post
ALMS went away several years ago. Maybe you are thinking (?) about IMSA GTLM
Yep, my bad. Old brain has old memories...

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Old 07-05-2019, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr View Post
Yep, my bad. Old brain has old memories...

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It happens to me, too. I attended Trans Ams, CanAM and Watkins Glen 6 hour in 1968
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Old 07-05-2019, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh View Post
BOP will catch up with the Porsches eventually, just like it did to the FGT. They got a pretty good performance bump prior to the beginning of this season.

My statement above was more about being surprised they haven't been dialed back this season. After their 4th straight win at Watkins Glen last weekend, I suspect it will eventually happen, perhaps before Lime Rock, since IMSA didn't mess with the Porsches for the race this weekend in Ontario.
No BOP for Porsche at Mosport, but they added 10Kg to the Corvettes to slow them down as they had WG fast lap by 0.4 seconds. Porsche still won.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47 View Post
No BOP for Porsche at Mosport, but they added 10Kg to the Corvettes to slow them down as they had WG fast lap by 0.4 seconds. Porsche still won.
Maybe whoever had Fast Lap influenced this weekend's BoP?
It wouldn't surprise me if it was actually Garcia...he was closing VERY fast on the leader at the end of the race.
Another lap or two and he would have won the race.

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Old 07-05-2019, 08:37 PM
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Regardless of GTLM I would love to 4 privateer teams running GTD in Corvettes
x2

while I too would hate see the factory backed GTLM class fade away the Ford GT really didn't belong IMO, it was no more based on a true factory production car than the man in the moon. But regardless the BOP made it work. Hopefully another mfg can be persuaded to join in, Honda NSX perhaps ?
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem View Post
It wouldn't surprise me if it was actually Garcia...he was closing VERY fast on the leader at the end of the race.
Another lap or two and he would have won the race.
agreed (I was there), in less than 15 minutes he went from a second and half back to less than a half second, shame the race wasn't 6 hours and 10 minutes long ! From what the 911 car was saying on the radio his tires were just about used up, front end pushing.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem View Post
Maybe whoever had Fast Lap influenced this weekend's BoP?
It wouldn't surprise me if it was actually Garcia...he was closing VERY fast on the leader at the end of the race.
Another lap or two and he would have won the race.
Garcia did have the fast lap of all the GTLM cars.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
x2

Hopefully another mfg can be persuaded to join in, Honda NSX perhaps ?
The NSX (IMSA version) runs in GTD.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
x2

while I too would hate see the factory backed GTLM class fade away the Ford GT really didn't belong IMO, it was no more based on a true factory production car than the man in the moon. But regardless the BOP made it work. Hopefully another mfg can be persuaded to join in, Honda NSX perhaps ?
Mercedes with a GT?
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:22 AM
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"The new 911 RSR roared through the Goodwood Festival of Speed before its race debut.

"We never rest on our laurels,” explains Pascal Zurlinden, Director GT Factory Motorsport. To further enhance the 911 RSR, Zurlinden added that Porsche engineers have noticed room for improvements in a lot of areas, especially in the complex areas of driveability, efficiency, durability, and serviceability.

With this, he said that 95 percent of the 2019 911 RSR is new. The only things inherited from its predecessor are headlights, brake system, clutch, driver’s seat, and parts of the suspension.

Powering the new 911 RSR is an updated version of 991.2's naturally-aspirated six-cylinder boxer engine. It has a slightly larger displacement at 4.2 liters, making it the largest boxer engine to ever be equipped in a Porsche 911. It has an approximate output of 515 horsepower (384 kiloWatts) depending on the size of the restrictor plate. This amount of power is sent to the rear wheels via a stiffer six-speed sequential racing transmission.

Porsche has made sure that the new 911 RSR is ready to conquer the WEC. It made a successful run at Le Castellet in March 2019, covering more than 3,728 miles (6,000 kilometers) over 30 hours without any technical issues.

The brand-new Porsche 911 RSR will have its racing debut at the season-opening round of the FIA WEC at Silverstone on September 1, 2019."

If this is the same car that will run in ISMA Team Corvette has their work cut out for them.
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Old 07-07-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kodiak Bear View Post
"The new 911 RSR roared through the Goodwood Festival of Speed before its race debut.

"We never rest on our laurels,” explains Pascal Zurlinden, Director GT Factory Motorsport. To further enhance the 911 RSR, Zurlinden added that Porsche engineers have noticed room for improvements in a lot of areas, especially in the complex areas of driveability, efficiency, durability, and serviceability.

With this, he said that 95 percent of the 2019 911 RSR is new. The only things inherited from its predecessor are headlights, brake system, clutch, driver’s seat, and parts of the suspension.

Powering the new 911 RSR is an updated version of 991.2's naturally-aspirated six-cylinder boxer engine. It has a slightly larger displacement at 4.2 liters, making it the largest boxer engine to ever be equipped in a Porsche 911. It has an approximate output of 515 horsepower (384 kiloWatts) depending on the size of the restrictor plate. This amount of power is sent to the rear wheels via a stiffer six-speed sequential racing transmission.

Porsche has made sure that the new 911 RSR is ready to conquer the WEC. It made a successful run at Le Castellet in March 2019, covering more than 3,728 miles (6,000 kilometers) over 30 hours without any technical issues.

The brand-new Porsche 911 RSR will have its racing debut at the season-opening round of the FIA WEC at Silverstone on September 1, 2019."

If this is the same car that will run in ISMA Team Corvette has their work cut out for them.
BOP will get them if IMSA chooses to act, which in GTLM to date they have not with Porsche running a non-road configuration car (mid-engine) and winning the last 4 races and no BOP adjustment for today's race, but they added 10KG of weight to the Corvettes because they might have beaten the Porsches at WG. Corvettes have finished 2nd in the last 3 races.

The Corvettes run a smaller engine than the street cars (5.5L) and have for several years. Generally IMSA is looking for the cars to have about 580 HP, depending on weight. They also adjust turbo car boos throughout the RPM range

WEC also has BOP, and after the Ford/Ferrar batle at the 60th anniversary of the Ford LeMans win, WEC essentially nailed the Fords with BOP. Right now Mercedes and possibly Lamborghini dominate WEC.i
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:41 AM
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well, Team Corvette(GTLM) stunk out the joint yesterday in Canada, hope for better luck in a couple of weeks @ Lime Rock.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:56 PM
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Cannot wait to find out how the mid engined Corvette C8R will perform. Should be a great rivalry with Porsche and their new mid engine 911 racecar.
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