“It’s different this time”...
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“It’s different this time”...
In the investment business, the above phrase is considered the kiss of death. As it turns out, it is hardly ever different, because people don’t change much over time. And such is likely for the intro of the C8 when comparing it to acceptance/rejection of previous generation progressions. I think the C8 will have its share of altar (or alter, ha) worshippers and haters alike, but in the end GM will probably manage to sell 30k plus of the first year base model Stingray IMO. Then we’ll see the Z06 18 months or so after and a ZR1 a year or two after that IMO.
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07-13-2019, 09:44 AM
I think the C8 will have its share of altar (or alter, ha) worshippers and haters alike
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Melting Slicks
I'm wiling to bet they will sell close to 50K units the first year.
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They might have a request for 30,000+ the first year but the issue is they may not be able to fill the request. Remember it's most likely going to be a shorter production year since they are not starting the build until close to end of this year and assuming they go back to there normal production dates with 2021's being built next summer. Also with new models they tend to start slow and then ramp up the production line. Also wouldn't be surprised to see some QA issues along the way as well.
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I think the C8 will have its share of altar (or alter, ha) worshippers and haters alike
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I am excited too, although I am waiting to see it and also seeing if I can wait a year or two until my C7 reaches 100,000 miles. It has been a truly great car. But, the C8 will be better, as the C7 was better than my C6.
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WalterSobchak (07-13-2019)
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With such a huge change in the platform there is no way I will buy it in year one. Too much potential for things to go wrong. Assuming it actually looks decent, which remains to be seen, I may buy a Z06 model when it comes out.
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Price defines the number of people who can afford to buy the car and among them you must find actual buyers; the ones who both have the money and want the car. I don't think the number of people who want the car and have the money is going to be much different than it has been with recent iterations so this leaves price as the factor which will most affect sales volume. The higher the pricing the lower the sales and the numbers will at best be similar to C7 over the generation if the price hike is very small. You have to keep in mind that your single largest pool of real buyers are old men and unlike the rich/very high income buyers they have sharply defined limits beyond which they cant go. It's all about price, keep the old men in you move more cars. Price them out you move less because the rich/very high income buyers can't produce volume.
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Maybe the C8 will grow on me. The C7 never did.
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The C8 will attract guys like me that only bought mid engine cars when we could finally afford them...I'm actually excited to buy an America mussel/sport car that's finally built right for the track...and dont give me the C7 beat the Ford GT or 911 crap let me see you or I put those numbers up without a support team and deep pockets...not gonna happen! With this car I'm hopping it beats my present car in stock metal after I throw the interior away...if so I'll gladly dish out the cash for the Z06! Its exciting times for mid engine enthusiasts! F'n finally! Just don't let us down GM or this could be your perverable nail....
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The C8 will attract guys like me that only bought mid engine cars when we could finally afford them...I'm actually excited to buy an America mussel/sport car that's finally built right for the track...and dont give me the C7 beat the Ford GT or 911 crap let me see you or I put those numbers up without a support team and deep pockets...not gonna happen! With this car I'm hopping it beats my present car in stock metal after I throw the interior away...if so I'll gladly dish out the cash for the Z06! Its exciting times for mid engine enthusiasts! F'n finally! Just don't let us down GM or this could be your perverable nail....
I Have a 2017 Callaway 757 M7 which i absolutely love. Payments are done in 2 1/2 yrs. I figure by then hopefully any bugs are worked out and i will see what type of high HP variant is available. Then make the decision weather to move into the C8
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Exactly!! Let the first year buyers be the guinea pigs and then pick up a Z06. The C7 Z even had issues in its first year or two of production so maybe a second production year Z06 for me.
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The C8 will attract guys like me that only bought mid engine cars when we could finally afford them...I'm actually excited to buy an America mussel/sport car that's finally built right for the track...and dont give me the C7 beat the Ford GT or 911 crap let me see you or I put those numbers up without a support team and deep pockets...not gonna happen! With this car I'm hopping it beats my present car in stock metal after I throw the interior away...if so I'll gladly dish out the cash for the Z06! Its exciting times for mid engine enthusiasts! F'n finally! Just don't let us down GM or this could be your perverable nail....
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The C8 will attract guys like me that only bought mid engine cars when we could finally afford them...I'm actually excited to buy an America mussel/sport car that's finally built right for the track...and dont give me the C7 beat the Ford GT or 911 crap let me see you or I put those numbers up without a support team and deep pockets...not gonna happen! With this car I'm hopping it beats my present car in stock metal after I throw the interior away...if so I'll gladly dish out the cash for the Z06! Its exciting times for mid engine enthusiasts! F'n finally! Just don't let us down GM or this could be your perverable nail....
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Melting Slicks
If the economy keeps humming along the new C8 should be fine its first year. I think it fits in a unique price point especially being a mid-engine sports car with a V8 engine. Sports car sales are flat to down year over year unless you move into the higher supercars north of 200k. I think GM realized they hit the performance threshold of the FE and to gain additional buyers and performance go after an area that is open in the sports car segment A ME with a V8 starting at 62k and below 150k. This gives GM a very compelling competitive advantage over its competitors. They will gain new buyers and keep most of their current loyal buyers.
Example:
Porsche Cayman 4 cylinder 57k S 69k Box 59k S 71k then GTS 80k GT4 100k plus
NSX with V6 starts at 159k can be had new around 130. Car not selling NSX faithful not happy with it.
Audi R8 V10 rear wheel drive limited to 1000 units starts at 150k and all-wheel goes as high as 220k
Mclaren 570 v8 turbo starts at 190+ goes well past 250
Ferrari v8 is 200k plus
Lamborghini V10 200k plus
Alfa 4C 4 cylinder starts at 65k coupe stopped production only makes convertible will be done end of year.
Lotus Evora 400 V6 supercharged 95k plus can be had cheaper, still hard to find not many made per year.
My point is a buyer did not have a ME” available to them with a V8 from a manufacturer under 100k and definitely not at the price we all expect the new C8 to come in at..
Its a true bargain no matter how many people like it or dislike it....
Example:
Porsche Cayman 4 cylinder 57k S 69k Box 59k S 71k then GTS 80k GT4 100k plus
NSX with V6 starts at 159k can be had new around 130. Car not selling NSX faithful not happy with it.
Audi R8 V10 rear wheel drive limited to 1000 units starts at 150k and all-wheel goes as high as 220k
Mclaren 570 v8 turbo starts at 190+ goes well past 250
Ferrari v8 is 200k plus
Lamborghini V10 200k plus
Alfa 4C 4 cylinder starts at 65k coupe stopped production only makes convertible will be done end of year.
Lotus Evora 400 V6 supercharged 95k plus can be had cheaper, still hard to find not many made per year.
My point is a buyer did not have a ME” available to them with a V8 from a manufacturer under 100k and definitely not at the price we all expect the new C8 to come in at..
Its a true bargain no matter how many people like it or dislike it....
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Le Mans Master
Kind of premature to predict sales number's. It's not a given car buyer's will flock to buy an unproven model. Those that can afford higher end cars may turn their nose down on a GM product, and those fan's that do like it are used to eating a certain gruel and don't like drastic change.
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yeah auto sales number have been going and trending down for awhile now. They are launching into a soft market, one that may not improve for some time. It'll sell of course, but I dont see any great historic like sales numbers coming.
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