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Old 07-19-2019, 04:50 AM
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Are the radiator and oil coolers mounted up front with plumbing running to the engine or is air flowed to the rear with aft cooling?

Front mount coolers could add a lot of weight with fluid lines and pumping.
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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
Are the radiator and oil coolers mounted up front with plumbing running to the engine or is air flowed to the rear with aft cooling?

Front mount coolers could add a lot of weight with fluid lines and pumping.
Great question. It doesn’t seem to have been discussed. Those huge vents on each side of the car appear to argue for side mounted twin radiators. In looking at the galleries of the car at Chevy’s website, I can’t see anything definitive there, either. A complete schematic of the car would be helpful.

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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
Are the radiator and oil coolers mounted up front with plumbing running to the engine or is air flowed to the rear with aft cooling?

Front mount coolers could add a lot of weight with fluid lines and pumping.
Car and Driver published some of the best photos of the entire event, IMHO. And yes, two cheek coolers running to the back of the car.

http://bit.ly/2xSXX8q

Look to the center of that pic: you can see the lines.
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I think I read somewhere that the Z51 package gets a third radiator in the center rear (to go with the two front).
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I think I read somewhere that the Z51 package gets a third radiator in the center rear (to go with the two front).
Yes.
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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
Are the radiator and oil coolers mounted up front with plumbing running to the engine or is air flowed to the rear with aft cooling?

Front mount coolers could add a lot of weight with fluid lines and pumping.
That's the only way to do proper cooling on a mid engine car. There's not enough space in the rear or clean air.

Also don't expect a dedicated air to oil cooler. Tadge said the oil cooler was 25% bigger which doesn't matter as the key factor is how much surface area the radiators have.

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In some of the tight shots of the front end you can see what look to be radiator fins behind the grills in the outboard front openings.


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In some of the tight shots of the front end you can see what look to be radiator fins behind the grills in the outboard front openings.



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I think the setup really isn't too much different from the C7 ie engine radiators up front, trans and diff coolers in the side intakes. Standard mid engined stuff. Either way, should be much improved over the C7.
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So what's in the side intakes? Engine air? Transaxle cooling? Oil cooler?
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow
This is going to be a problem with rocks. Needs a smaller screen to protect those radiator fins. First thing I'll do is try and get some 1/4 inch hardware cloth in front of the radiator

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Originally Posted by CitznFish
This is going to be a problem with rocks. Needs a smaller screen to protect those radiator fins
Ac condenser seems to be missing. Not unlike many other cars out there.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
So what's in the side intakes? Engine air? Transaxle cooling? Oil cooler?
Transmissuin and diff + 1 more radiator. Oil cooler is just like the c7. Brick under engine.
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Whatever weight that would be added by running coolant pipes to the front would be more than compensated for by deleting the driveshaft, torque tube, and the full-length exhaust that a front engined car requires.
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Originally Posted by stevebz06
Whatever weight that would be added by running coolant pipes to the front would be more than compensated for by deleting the driveshaft, torque tube, and the full-length exhaust that a front engined car requires.

I am not so sure there is much of a weight saving with at least 4 cooling pipes and pumping.
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Also,if the oil cooler is front mounted how do you drain the oil lines on an oil change?
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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
Also,if the oil cooler is front mounted how do you drain the oil lines on an oil change?
It's a liquid to liquid cooler like the C7. The oil doesn't leave the cooler brick adjacent to the engine. The coolant absorbs the heat of the oil and then flows through the normal cooling circuit.

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Originally Posted by warhawkmcdaniel
I am not so sure there is much of a weight saving with at least 4 cooling pipes and pumping.
Have you removed the exhaust in one piece by yourself and tried to put it back up in place? It is HEAVY.
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If the water coolant radiators are not mounted in either side, like a race car, but instead are up front, then there is really no need for these gigantic side scoops. Smaller NACA ducts could’ve been used for the oil cooler, transmission cooler, diff cooler and any supplementary radiators of any kind. Kind of disappointed. I thought we might have two big side radiators with very short hoses and short runs. Of course, this may have required the trans and diff coolers to be in a rear grill and cramped the luggage space.
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Originally Posted by quick04Z06
If the water coolant radiators are not mounted in either side, like a race car, but instead are up front, then there is really no need for these gigantic side scoops. Smaller NACA ducts could’ve been used for the oil cooler, transmission cooler, diff cooler and any supplementary radiators of any kind. Kind of disappointed. I thought we might have two big side radiators with very short hoses and short runs. Of course, this may have required the trans and diff coolers to be in a rear grill and cramped the luggage space.
What? You're gonna add several nacaducts all over the place. Those are hideous.

For the z51 you need:
Engine air intake
3rd radiator
Transmission oil cooler
Differential oil cooler
2x rear brake cooling ducts

That's 3 items per side.
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