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Please. I had a smaller car with a pretty big targa (and front wheels that turned.). Chevy could have done it; they chose not to (or maybe did not consider it, which I doubt.). No doubt some compromises on frunk size and depth, and possibly size/shape of targa, would have been required.
You can see how Bertone did it. Beautiful, sleek and timeless Italian styling IMO (except for those awful 70’s safety bumpers.) World class rusting at no extra charge.
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Hmm, then it would be like your <~1.5 Liter, <~100 hp car! “Please,”. no thanks! Actually do like the Fiat! Good design! Cute, like my 2500 lb modified Corvair that had a large Frunk!
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Yep as Tadge said in his recent Autoline 1 hr interview; "We would often say this particular issue would be no problem to solve if we didn't have to worry how much it cost!
Koenigsegg who builds >$2,000,000 sports cars does some neat special things. Yep, given an unlimited budget most things can be done!
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Don't get me wrong, but comparing a <1.5 Liter Fiat with 6.2 Liter C8 doesn't work! The Fiat in 62 inches wide and the C8 76 inches wide. Frankly I like the car, but then I loved my modified Corvair and Datsun 260 Z etc!
Also spent most of my working carrier competing with the "low cost producer" in our industry! Like Henry Ford, the founder was proud to lower prices of the same old product every year! He ran the business with an iron hand and when he died at 82 in the 1960's it was run by a fellow who's philosophy was the same until the 1980's when he finally retired at ~80!
We did very well, thank you, by making products they would never consider. I remember a welding flux they sold for ~$10/100 lbs and our direct competing product sold for $11/100 bs. BUT we developed a special product sold to the nuclear fabrication industry they would never consider. Lots of R&D but didn't cost more to make than our $11/100 lbs product. It sold for $67/100 lbs. Have many examples like that including a product my boss invented, Plasma Cutting they did not get into until the mid 1990's and was a major contributor to our profits!
Yep, most things can be done but have to consider high tech/high profit products some customers will pay for as "early adopters" or they have specific special needs.
From: Philadelphia PA (Birthplace of the USA, UNESCO World Heritage City)
A lot of negativity on this C8 board (not sure the reason for the original post attention-whoring when there are countless discussions about the rear styling already), so I'll try to provide a balanced viewpoint:
I like the C8 styling overall, I think it's a solid 8.5/10, which is very good for a base car. I love every angle of it, except the rear end, which I think could be much better but I also don't think it's abysmal.
To me, very very few sports cars or supercars have perfect styling, except for the Ferrari 458 for example, IMO. There are countless other Ferraris, Lambos, McLarens, etc. etc. that don't have the best styling all the way around the car, but get a free pass because they are exotic, so those styling elements are the equivalent of modern/abstract art and accepted as fashionable.
That being said, I absolutely LOVE the styling of the C8.R rear as many others do as well, and hope that future variants of the C8 (GS, Z06, etc.) incorporate the C8.R's rear styling, even if it means ditching some of the cargo space or making the targa stowable at home instead of in the car (and a portable soft targa to take with you on the road), or a two-piece targa roof similar to what the Porsche 918 Spyder has.
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Also, the black spoiler mates very well with the similarly shaped but inverted black panel at the bottom of the car. The net effect is to narrow and somewhat lower the perceived height of the rear end.
Mat black film on both sides of the vents, under the rear tail lights, would help streamline the back end. Like where the yellow is on this C8R. Maybe someone can Photo Shop the back end of street C8 with some black like the C8R?
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Please. I had a smaller car with a pretty big targa (and front wheels that turned.). Chevy could have done it; they chose not to (or maybe did not consider it, which I doubt.). No doubt some compromises on frunk size and depth, and possibly size/shape of targa, would have been required.
You can see how Bertone did it. Beautiful, sleek and timeless Italian styling IMO (except for those awful 70’s safety bumpers.) World class rusting at no extra charge.
I had an X 1/9 and I loved that little car. You treated the gas pedal like an On/ Off switch. Just mash it to the floor all the time no matter what situation. And you don't bother with the brakes. Just let off the gas and turn into a corner. No power at all but a real joy to drive as a toy. And it did have quite a lot of storage area for a car that's the size of a washing machine.
Please. I had a smaller car with a pretty big targa (and front wheels that turned.). Chevy could have done it; they chose not to (or maybe did not consider it, which I doubt.). No doubt some compromises on frunk size and depth, and possibly size/shape of targa, would have been required.
You can see how Bertone did it. Beautiful, sleek and timeless Italian styling IMO (except for those awful 70’s safety bumpers.) World class rusting at no extra charge.
The X 1/9 has a significantly smaller engine to work around.
To the OP's question, I think the rear is too busy, with too many shapes. It's the weakest part of the car. But it looks much better in person than it does in the photos. If you've only seen pictures, don't finalize your opinion until you see the real car. After seeing it at Carlisle and NCM, I think it's fine. Not great, but not as awful as some seem to think it is. Some of the recent Ferraris look much worse. And at least no one will mistake it for a potato, like recent Porsches.
Last edited by Red Mist Rulz; Jan 5, 2020 at 03:07 PM.
These Love/Hate threads are an exercise in futility. Going on, and on, and on about it won’t change it. If you don’t like it, maybe just find another car to buy. There sure are lots of other cars to pick from.
(In a few years from now, people will have realized that complaining doesn’t change things. Remember how many threads there were on the C7 section of the Forum when the C7 was unveiled? All complaining about losing the round taillights? Check out the C7 section now - not a single taillight thread. People learn, eventually).
It’s a discussion amount fellow enthusiasts no one is twisting your arm to participate. If you don’t like the topic than more on because you have contributed NOTHING.
Mat black film on both sides of the vents, under the rear tail lights, would help streamline the back end. Like where the yellow is on this C8R. Maybe someone can Photo Shop the back end of street C8 with some black like the C8R?
I agree “black film on both sides of the vents, under the rear tail lights, would help streamline the back end.” . I also think a wider (stretched) rear end like the C8R goes a long way to improving the look.
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Yep as Tadge said in his recent Autoline 1 hr interview; "We would often say this particular issue would be no problem to solve if we didn't have to worry how much it cost!
Koenigsegg who builds >$2,000,000 sports cars does some neat special things. Yep, given an unlimited budget most things can be done!
The Koenigsegg Jesko has a clip on roof which has to be bolted on with the 4 bolts provided that have to be installed before any spirited driving takes place. Funny, but C4 Vettes had the same feature.
Even though the rear of the car is not good, the side view of the car is much much worse. Has the 2 golf bag claim been tested? Some say that there is no chance to get 2 full bags in.
Zero flow and just looks very poor. Not something I would look back at once parked and think wow. The C8R looks much better from side view so there is hope for the Z versions.
While that isn’t a great pic, here is an awesome pic.
It’s all about angles. If you don’t like the car, you’ll search for a not so good pic and say “the car is ugly”.
Still don’t understand people who aren’t fans of the car trolling the C8 section... I also don’t take people who haven’t seen it in real life seriously (if you are judging looks).
I do generally like the C8 and tip my hat to GM for some pretty good Engineering at a very cost effective price point. But I also feel GM missed the design mark, close but no cigar, with rear end being the biggest offender...the car just doesn't make me go Wow that is a gorgeous car. I also think the interior wall of buttons was a bone head answer to their dash design criteria. I own a C7 Z06 Vert that I am quite happy with but as a former 911 Turbo owner I also feel the siren call of the P cars. My plan for now is to take a look at the Z car(s) when they start arriving and then look at my portfolio and make a decision. Perhaps a 991 Turbo S or if the portfolio is looking really good I might take the leap an go GT2 RS...or if the C8 Z cars blow me away I might consider them too. Until then I am going to keep enjoying my C7 Z06 Vert and just hang tight. Having said all that I respect the enthusiasm that all the new C8 buyers are showing for their new car and look forward to seeing some out and about next year.
Actually do like the Fiat! Good design! Cute, like my 2500 lb modified Corvair that had a large Frunk!
