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I think if you owned both for 10 years and paid maintenance you might come to a different conclusion. C8 faster & more reliable than the 458.
No matter how you try to spin this, you still own a Chevy, not a Ferrari. If I could afford a Ferrari, I could afford the maintainance also.. if you look at actual maintenance costs on the 458/488, it's not that bad. The days of the ridiculous maintenance costs of the 360 (and prior years) are long gone where you needed to replace timing belts and such.
I'm a chevy fan/owner/driver, but I'd take the Ferrari over the C8 just for class of vehicle alone if the 458/488 was similar in price 100% of the time.
The other nice thing about owning a 458/488 is that you don't see that many of them... If you love driving versus just having a status symbol then the C8 is the way to go. The best thing would be to have a 458/488 and a C8...
Originally Posted by Z06Z
No matter how you try to spin this, you still own a Chevy, not a Ferrari. If I could afford a Ferrari, I could afford the maintainance also.. if you look at actual maintenance costs on the 458/488, it's not that bad. The days of the ridiculous maintenance costs of the 360 (and prior years) are long gone where you needed to replace timing belts and such.
I'm a chevy fan/owner/driver, but I'd take the Ferrari over the C8 just for class of vehicle alone if the 458/488 was similar in price 100% of the time.
Last edited by EasyLivin; Dec 8, 2020 at 05:33 AM.
Well can certainly afford a Ferrari, McLaren, Lambo but don't feel the need spend money on something you can't really enjoy on a daily basis or put a lot of miles on for fear of killing resale value. Is a 911 now any better than a C8? I think not. Just went down and looked at a Taycan. Interior looked incredibly cheap compared to my C8. I think too many people can't get beyond the price of the C8, instead of realizing it is a $100k+, world class machine that GM sells for far less. If Ferrari came out with an equivalent car starting at $150k, everyone would be singing their praise.
One of the 458 owners on this thread has a 2015 with 8,500 miles on it and the other has only 13,500 miles on a car that is at least 5 years old. I plan to put at least 8,500 miles on my C8 every year and it's not my daily driver.
Well can certainly afford a Ferrari, McLaren, Lambo but don't feel the need spend money on something you can't really enjoy on a daily basis or put a lot of miles on for fear of killing resale value. Is a 911 now any better than a C8? I think not. Just went down and looked at a Taycan. Interior looked incredibly cheap compared to my C8. I think too many people can't get beyond the price of the C8, instead of realizing it is a $100k+, world class machine that GM sells for far less. If Ferrari came out with an equivalent car starting at $150k, everyone would be singing their praise.
LOL....c'mon, man. Embellish much? "Incredibly cheap?" Yes, the C8 has a gorgeous interior, but calling the Taycan interior "incredibly cheap" by comparison is just ridiculous.
I daily the 458 in winters here in FL, and recently put 3,000 miles on it in less than a month in the Appalachians. Summers are just too hot here in FL, except I do drive it in evenings a little when it cools down. I put about 12,000 miles on it in the two years I’ve had it. Depreciation is not a concern, although the 458s are holding their value quite well.
Purchasing the 458 was an experiment for me, if it was problematic or not enjoyable, I’d have sold it already. You can’t put a price tag on the creation of memories.
When/if it’s time to sell, I’ll do so and move on, though I’m told the 488 and F8 successors just don’t evoke the same passion. That’s the dilemma many of the 458 owners have. They just don’t know what to get if they do sell.
I know, first world problem.........
Last edited by wthensler; Dec 8, 2020 at 08:06 AM.
What MY is your car and how many miles did it have when you purchased it 2 years ago ?
Originally Posted by wthensler
I daily the 458 in winters here in FL, and recently put 3,000 miles on it in less than a month in the Appalachians. Summers are just too hot here in FL, except I do drive it in evenings a little when it cools down. I put about 12,000 miles on it in the two years I’ve had it. Depreciation is not a concern, although the 458s are holding their value quite well.
Purchasing the 458 was an experiment for me, if it was problematic or not enjoyable, I’d have sold it already. You can’t put a price tag on the creation of memories.
When/if it’s time to sell, I’ll do so and move on, though I’m told the 488 and F8 successors just don’t evoke the same passion. That’s the dilemma many of the 458 owners have. They just don’t know what to get if they do sell.
Well can certainly afford a Ferrari, McLaren, Lambo but don't feel the need spend money on something you can't really enjoy on a daily basis or put a lot of miles on for fear of killing resale value. Is a 911 now any better than a C8? I think not. Just went down and looked at a Taycan. Interior looked incredibly cheap compared to my C8. I think too many people can't get beyond the price of the C8, instead of realizing it is a $100k+, world class machine that GM sells for far less. If Ferrari came out with an equivalent car starting at $150k, everyone would be singing their praise.
Good post, agree with every word of it. Ferrari would be the only one of the three you mention that I have ever considered purchasing. The McLarens look like cheap kit cars and the Lambos are all about the look at me factor and require a gymnastics maneuver for someone my size to get in and out of. I guess the Corvette has always been the right balance of performance, satisfaction, and practicality for me. There are many of us who can easily afford one or more of these high priced "exotics" but elect not to for a medley of reasons. Personally I don't have any reason to or need to seek validation through this type wealth or status statement.
What MY is your car and how many miles did it have when you purchased it 2 years ago ?
2013, purchased in 2018 (almost 2 years to the day). Two previous owners and 2,000 miles. Just turned 13,700 miles yesterday. Zero problems to date (but car needs to run frequently).
PP was a little north of 210, currently fetching around 190 give or take. Did a bunch of stuff to it, though it’s somewhat limited what you can do:
Mase Engineering Tune (hp, torque and throttle response improvements)
Kline 200 cell cats and catback exhaust (for that F1 sound at 9,000 rpm)
Escort 360 Ci radar and laser jammer (for FHP snipers, also saved me in Appalachia)
fixed ‘sticky’ buttons ( a known F problem)
Full tint and PPF wrap (great investment)
Hell my Trek bicycle was 8,500 and I daily that, LOL!
Last edited by wthensler; Dec 8, 2020 at 09:04 AM.
One of the 458 owners on this thread has a 2015 with 8,500 miles on it and the other has only 13,500 miles on a car that is at least 5 years old. I plan to put at least 8,500 miles on my C8 every year and it's not my daily driver.
When you have one of each and they are not DD but weekend toys the toys don't tend to accumulate much in way of mileage.
16 Callaway SC 757 8200 miles
15 Ferrari 458 8500 miles
20 C8 1400 miles
I can only drive one car at a time so I think you will find many 458 owners in same position where its not there only toy so mileage tend to be low.
Just FYI Ferrari has zero maintenance cost for 1st 7 years.
Mine has been extremely reliable.
Other than tires and stickey buttons all other maintenance has been covered.
Only mods have been exhaust / tune / complete Exel Wrap and ceramic coat / High end sound system installation running trough factory head unit with all nex focal speakers/ amps / custome enclosure for base system
Note the Ferrari sound system from factory is nothing to write home about .
Last edited by vetteman41960; Dec 8, 2020 at 09:18 AM.
Good post, agree with every word of it. Ferrari would be the only one of the three you mention that I have ever considered purchasing. The McLarens look like cheap kit cars and the Lambos are all about the look at me factor and require a gymnastics maneuver for someone my size to get in and out of. I guess the Corvette has always been the right balance of performance, satisfaction, and practicality for me. There are many of us who can easily afford one or more of these high priced "exotics" but elect not to for a medley of reasons. Personally I don't have any reason to or need to seek validation through this type wealth or status statement.
As a rule, I do not disparage a car or maker that I’ve never had. However, we all hear things. The McLarens depreciate terribly, but worse, suffer from QC issues which I’ve witnessed myself. I don’t like the way they look....front lights give me the *****’s
i would love to have a Lamborghini Spyder. I keep trying to squeeze into one, but it would be a Point A to Point A car only, and for 30 minutes max. A real shame as I’d love the NA V-10 RWD version. But it’s like the girl I just can’t have. They have other issues as well - my trusted mechanic who does all the work on my 458 told me to avoid, but I didn’t yet ask him why.........
Finally, I appreciate your comment about validation of wealth. Yes, I do have it, but I purchased it because I like high performance sports cars and thought it looked cool. I still do........
Last edited by wthensler; Dec 8, 2020 at 09:12 AM.
When you have one of each and they are not DD but weekend toys the toys don't tend to accumulate much in way of mileage.
16 Callaway SC 757 8200 miles
15 Ferrari 458 8500 miles
20 C8 1400 miles
I can only drive one car at a time so I think you will find many 458 owners in same position where its not there only toy so mileage tend to be low.
Just FYI Ferrari has zero maintenance cost for 1st 7 years.
Mine has been extremely reliable.
Where in carnation did you find the red prancing horse? I’ve had black 911s, not sure about one for FL. My friend is taking delivery on a Nero F8 Spider in two weeks, can’t wait to see it.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the C8 compared to the 458, but I suspect I have a hunch.........
Good post, agree with every word of it. Ferrari would be the only one of the three you mention that I have ever considered purchasing. The McLarens look like cheap kit cars and the Lambos are all about the look at me factor and require a gymnastics maneuver for someone my size to get in and out of. I guess the Corvette has always been the right balance of performance, satisfaction, and practicality for me. There are many of us who can easily afford one or more of these high priced "exotics" but elect not to for a medley of reasons. Personally I don't have any reason to or need to seek validation through this type wealth or status statement.
Typical PUNKY post as he just is too small minded to understand that as CAR GUYS there are many great options out there for us to enjoy.
Punky has never owned or spent anytime driving a Ferrari so it not worth trying to explain the appeal of the car as he just not a CAR GUY.
If you own a Miata he calls out your manhood if you own a Ferrari he calls out your choice as wealth validation.
Punky is a retired Dr with a God complex who thinks that what one chooses to drive determines that person personality or mind set .
He just not a true CAR ENTHUSIASTS and its clear his interest in cars is limited to Corvette.
Sad fact he does not even own one of those either.
So I guess we could be like PUNKY and determine that he a poser and really not a Car Guy but just someone who is too cheap to enjoy the fruits of his labor and at least own a Corvette .
As for myself I look forward to purchasing a 911 GT3 as I never owned one and I look forward to having another great sports car that is completely different from anything I currently own.
As some have noted Lamborghini is definitely a sexy car but I had a very poor experience with the one I owned. It was one issue after another and totally took the enjoyment of owning the car away.
The Ferrari has been the complete opposite just extremely reliable and a blast to drive.
Typical PUNKY post as he just is too small minded to understand that as CAR GUYS there are many great options out there for us to enjoy.
Punky has never owned or spent anytime driving a Ferrari so it not worth trying to explain the appeal of the car as he just not a CAR GUY.
If you own a Miata he calls out your manhood if you own a Ferrari he calls out your choice as wealth validation.
Punky is a retired Dr with a God complex who thinks that what one chooses to drive determines that person personality or mind set .
He just not a true CAR ENTHUSIASTS and its clear his interest in cars is limited to Corvette.
Sad fact he does not even own one of those either.
So I guess we could be like PUNKY and determine that he a poser and really not a Car Guy but just someone who is too cheap to enjoy the fruits of his labor and at least own a Corvette .
Interesting that you interpreted his post that you quoted in that manner, because his post said absolutely nothing that you claimed it did - which more so illustrates your bias toward him.
He agrees with the OP on his various opinions feedback regarding the three vehicles mentioned; mentions how it would be difficult for him to get in/out of a Lamborghini; and mentions (on a Corvette forum) that the Corvette strikes the right balance of performance, satisfaction, and practicality for him. He points out, correctly, that many owners purchase these vehicles as a display of wealth or status - which can also be said of some Corvette owners (who constantly post about how much attention their car gets).
Perhaps you should pause before directing unnecessary and unwarranted personal attacks at someone simply because you misread/judged a post clouded by your own bias
Sorry, I really disagree with this one. Recently my wife and I did a three week, 3,000 mile tour of seven states in the Appalachian region in the 458. Some days we spend 10 hours in the car. It is actually quite comfortable, and I’m close to 6’. We have the electric Daytona seats, which are heated and not too bad plush wise.
The noise inside is more road noise (tires) which I assume is not much better in a C8. Could even be worse.........
I wanted to correct your statement because I speak from direct experience, not anecdotally, and it’s important for folks here to know.
Now a Lamborghini Huracan is a different matter all together. That’s a 30 minute car tops, less if you’re taller like me. It’ll kill you.
thats because you have a vert. My Coupe I had there is nothing separating the engine bay from the cockpit. Not having a glass barrier between the back makes a huge difference. The vert you don’t have to worry about that.
but that view right there no glass the engine just flows into the cockpit.
thats because you have a vert. My Coupe I had there is nothing separating the engine bay from the cockpit. Not having a glass barrier between the back makes a huge difference. The vert you don’t have to worry about that.
but that view right there no glass the engine just flows into the cockpit.
Oh jeez, I didn't even know that! Learn something every day. Nice smile by the way (Ferraris have a way of doing that).
Originally Posted by ssump29
I’ve done a coast to coast trip in my old 458 as well. Comfort isn’t the problem the engine right behind your ears is the problem.
See response above. If y'all lived in FL you wouldn't have that problem. Coupes are illegal here, LOL!
Last edited by wthensler; Dec 8, 2020 at 03:13 PM.
Oh jeez, I didn't even know that! Learn something every day. Nice smile by the way (Ferraris have a way of doing that).
See response above. If y'all lived in FL you wouldn't have that problem. Coupes are illegal here, LOL!
wait illegal or just not done because it’s always nice for a vert and on mine I always wondered if the previous owners someone had the glass barrier removed cause it made zero sense to design a car like that.
Like I said above, ideally you can have both !
