Navigation SD Card Error
E-Ray, 3LZ, ZER, LIFT
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 34,930
Likes: 12,344
From: NE South Carolina
My NAV card worked fine for the first 13 months, then started acting up the past two months like several others here. Randomly works, then doesn't. Sometimes works all day other days works only for an hour or so. Then next day at startup it fails again. All the "fixes" have been tried and failed or seemed to succeed for a day or two. Dealer ordered me a new card, I'll report back if that fixes the problem, but not optimistic at this point.
I did try something interesting to see if it was the slot or???? I made a music SD card and inserted in the NAV slot, and it played fine and never stopped or glitched, so it does appear to be card related.
I did try something interesting to see if it was the slot or???? I made a music SD card and inserted in the NAV slot, and it played fine and never stopped or glitched, so it does appear to be card related.
Here is an update on my shimming the SD Card which has worked for about a week. Well thought that was it but today at start-up No SD Card message. AND after pressing the NAV Icon on the center screen it goes though the steps of initiating etc but ends with the Blue Header message "NAV SD Card Error" in the center screen. Since I'm no longer using the free Sirius XM car has been starting with the USB I've used on my C7s. No high bit rate. All standard MP3s. In fact have had that USB plugged in for months as I tired to be sure it works BUT was only using Sirius. Car 1 year old yesterday!
So thought fine when I get home I'll pull the NAV SD card and see if it's like the thin old one I had that was 0.053" (which with my 0.032 plastic shim made it 0.085) OR like the NAV SD card you measured on 0.083"
BUT when I started it up after leaving the store all worked fine. Well one other thing that appears. Unlike my two C7's where when using the USB music car started music was playing near a message. Now I mostly get an initial message (where the No SD Card message appears to the right of the speedometer,) "No USB Connected." But as soon as the car is moving songs start playing from where it left off!
BOTTOM LINE
- Appears to reinforce most of the comments saying it's a software Buss issue.
- Why it occurred in my case after 10 months don't know.
- Has GM added something to the new SD card that delays any reading that would conflict with initiation on the buss?
- If there a software fix?
Last edited by JerryU; Sep 3, 2021 at 01:26 PM.
Race Director
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 12,760
Likes: 10,192
From: Garden Valley CA
Let us know if the new NAV SD card helps.
Here is an update on my shimming the SD Card which has worked for about a week. Well thought that was it but today at start-up No SD Card message. Since I'm no longer using the free Sirius XM car has been starting with the USB I've used on my C7s. No high bit rate. All standard MP3s. In fact have had that USB plugged in for months as I tired to be sure it works BUT was only using Sirius. Car 1 year old yesterday!
So thought fine when I get home I'll pull the NAV SD card and see if it's like the thin old one I had that was 0.053" (which with my 0.032 plastic shim made it 0.085) OR like the NAV SD you measured on 0.083"
BUT when I started it up after leaving the store all worked fine. Well one other thing that appears. Unlike my two C7's where when using the USB music car started music was playing near a message. Now I mostly get an initial message (where the No SD Card message appears to the right of the speedometer,) "No USB Connected." But as soon as the car is moving songs start playing from where it left off!
BOTTOM LINE
Here is an update on my shimming the SD Card which has worked for about a week. Well thought that was it but today at start-up No SD Card message. Since I'm no longer using the free Sirius XM car has been starting with the USB I've used on my C7s. No high bit rate. All standard MP3s. In fact have had that USB plugged in for months as I tired to be sure it works BUT was only using Sirius. Car 1 year old yesterday!
So thought fine when I get home I'll pull the NAV SD card and see if it's like the thin old one I had that was 0.053" (which with my 0.032 plastic shim made it 0.085) OR like the NAV SD you measured on 0.083"
BUT when I started it up after leaving the store all worked fine. Well one other thing that appears. Unlike my two C7's where when using the USB music car started music was playing near a message. Now I mostly get an initial message (where the No SD Card message appears to the right of the speedometer,) "No USB Connected." But as soon as the car is moving songs start playing from where it left off!
BOTTOM LINE
- Appears to reinforce most of the comments saying it's a software Buss issue.
- Why it occurred in my case after 10 months don't know.
- Has GM added something to the new SD card that delays any reading that would conflict with initiation on the buss?
- If there a software fix?
E-Ray, 3LZ, ZER, LIFT
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 34,930
Likes: 12,344
From: NE South Carolina
This is my ongoing saga re getting a SD Card not installed message.
Thought dash message saying no SD card was for the PDR. Turned out it was not and I get the same message as others in the center screen (see pic.)
Thought perhaps it was an excessively thin SD card so added 0.032 plastic above the SD card and thought that solved the issue. Today all was fine on the trip to the store and after and when I returned got the familiar message (shown below.) BTW checked the SD card thickness and was like my PDR SD Card 0.083 inches.
Does appear to be a software issue but so far no GM software download program offered. Anyone found a solution??
Thought dash message saying no SD card was for the PDR. Turned out it was not and I get the same message as others in the center screen (see pic.)
Thought perhaps it was an excessively thin SD card so added 0.032 plastic above the SD card and thought that solved the issue. Today all was fine on the trip to the store and after and when I returned got the familiar message (shown below.) BTW checked the SD card thickness and was like my PDR SD Card 0.083 inches.
Does appear to be a software issue but so far no GM software download program offered. Anyone found a solution??
Last edited by JerryU; Sep 16, 2021 at 07:33 PM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 2,920
Likes: 360
From: Mayer, AZ
Let us know if the new NAV SD card helps.
Here is an update on my shimming the SD Card which has worked for about a week. Well thought that was it but today at start-up No SD Card message. AND after pressing the NAV Icon on the center screen it goes though the steps of initiating etc but ends with the Blue Header message "NAV SD Card Error" in the center screen. Since I'm no longer using the free Sirius XM car has been starting with the USB I've used on my C7s. No high bit rate. All standard MP3s. In fact have had that USB plugged in for months as I tired to be sure it works BUT was only using Sirius. Car 1 year old yesterday!
So thought fine when I get home I'll pull the NAV SD card and see if it's like the thin old one I had that was 0.053" (which with my 0.032 plastic shim made it 0.085) OR like the NAV SD card you measured on 0.083"
BUT when I started it up after leaving the store all worked fine. Well one other thing that appears. Unlike my two C7's where when using the USB music car started music was playing near a message. Now I mostly get an initial message (where the No SD Card message appears to the right of the speedometer,) "No USB Connected." But as soon as the car is moving songs start playing from where it left off!
BOTTOM LINE
Here is an update on my shimming the SD Card which has worked for about a week. Well thought that was it but today at start-up No SD Card message. AND after pressing the NAV Icon on the center screen it goes though the steps of initiating etc but ends with the Blue Header message "NAV SD Card Error" in the center screen. Since I'm no longer using the free Sirius XM car has been starting with the USB I've used on my C7s. No high bit rate. All standard MP3s. In fact have had that USB plugged in for months as I tired to be sure it works BUT was only using Sirius. Car 1 year old yesterday!
So thought fine when I get home I'll pull the NAV SD card and see if it's like the thin old one I had that was 0.053" (which with my 0.032 plastic shim made it 0.085) OR like the NAV SD card you measured on 0.083"
BUT when I started it up after leaving the store all worked fine. Well one other thing that appears. Unlike my two C7's where when using the USB music car started music was playing near a message. Now I mostly get an initial message (where the No SD Card message appears to the right of the speedometer,) "No USB Connected." But as soon as the car is moving songs start playing from where it left off!
BOTTOM LINE
- Appears to reinforce most of the comments saying it's a software Buss issue.
- Why it occurred in my case after 10 months don't know.
- Has GM added something to the new SD card that delays any reading that would conflict with initiation on the buss?
- If there a software fix?
So my update: After several dealer visits and them insisting that a new NAV card would fix the issue, I had to let them "try". I was convinced it wasn't going to work as I had already purchased a new map SD card and while it worked for about a week, same old problem came back. Well they put in a new SD card and SD port....... worked for about a week and now back to the same old issue. I don't believe in coincidences but after NAV SD card error pops up, next start up it takes a couple of minutes for usb to begin playing and it says rebidding index or media. I had bet the dealer $1000 that it wasn't going to work, but not holding my breath he will pay....LOL He was pretty surprised when I called and told him the issue was back.
So bottom line, problem not solved/resolved........
E-Ray, 3LZ, ZER, LIFT
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 34,930
Likes: 12,344
From: NE South Carolina
^^^
Hmm, see of the several threads on this subject I didn't post the solution that I tried and worked 98%!
This is a PDF with the details: NAV_SD_Card_Error.pdf (netwelding.com)
The problem and solution was defined by Z06DevilCar. I just found and easy way to implement.
The basic issue is NAV and the USB is started at the same time using the same Buss. If music is stored at higher than 160kbps it causes and error. He made a thumb drive with all MP3s less than 160kbps and the issue was resolved. I found 1/3 of my >1000 songs on my USB were over 180kbps and the problem occurred at about every 1/3 start! Found an easy way to set all at 160kbps or less and the problem is gone about 98% of the time!
Hmm, see of the several threads on this subject I didn't post the solution that I tried and worked 98%!
This is a PDF with the details: NAV_SD_Card_Error.pdf (netwelding.com)
The problem and solution was defined by Z06DevilCar. I just found and easy way to implement.
The basic issue is NAV and the USB is started at the same time using the same Buss. If music is stored at higher than 160kbps it causes and error. He made a thumb drive with all MP3s less than 160kbps and the issue was resolved. I found 1/3 of my >1000 songs on my USB were over 180kbps and the problem occurred at about every 1/3 start! Found an easy way to set all at 160kbps or less and the problem is gone about 98% of the time!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 2,920
Likes: 360
From: Mayer, AZ
^^^
Hmm, see of the several threads on this subject I didn't post the solution that I tried and worked 98%!
This is a PDF with the details: NAV_SD_Card_Error.pdf (netwelding.com)
The problem and solution was defined by Z06DevilCar. I just found and easy way to implement.
The basic issue is NAV and the USB is started at the same time using the same Buss. If music is stored at higher than 160kbps it causes and error. He made a thumb drive with all MP3s less than 160kbps and the issue was resolved. I found 1/3 of my >1000 songs on my USB were over 180kbps and the problem occurred at about every 1/3 start! Found an easy way to set all at 160kbps or less and the problem is gone about 98% of the time!
Hmm, see of the several threads on this subject I didn't post the solution that I tried and worked 98%!
This is a PDF with the details: NAV_SD_Card_Error.pdf (netwelding.com)
The problem and solution was defined by Z06DevilCar. I just found and easy way to implement.
The basic issue is NAV and the USB is started at the same time using the same Buss. If music is stored at higher than 160kbps it causes and error. He made a thumb drive with all MP3s less than 160kbps and the issue was resolved. I found 1/3 of my >1000 songs on my USB were over 180kbps and the problem occurred at about every 1/3 start! Found an easy way to set all at 160kbps or less and the problem is gone about 98% of the time!
THANKS!!!!!
I will try the Audacity solution.......
E-Ray, 3LZ, ZER, LIFT
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 34,930
Likes: 12,344
From: NE South Carolina
Just seeing if anyone who posted found a 100% solution.
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