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Old 08-31-2017, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pompitup
Hi Patman,


No NPP exhaust or glass roof for your new car???


BTW, I read in a 2018 Camaro ZL1 that 91 is called for in the lt4 engine and in the LT1 also. Costco will be your friend still..lol
I am thinking that perhaps GM figures most of Canada isn't super hot in the summer, so they assume we can get away with 91 octane most of the time. I do believe that could cause a loss of horsepower in hot summer weather though, as it will surely pull out some timing (unless the timing curve for Canadian cars is lower). So to be safe I think I'd only run 91 during a time period when I know it's not going to be hotter than 20C. No matter what octane I'm running though, I'm going to make sure I always use Top Tier fuel.

When it came time to choose the options for my car I decided against the NPP and the glass roof. As much as those two things would be nice, I don't find them absolute necessities.

Sorry to the OP for hijacking this thread
Old 08-31-2017, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by C7AW
Hello folks,

I may consider a Z06(A8) next yr, and I am debating if I should sell my existing C7 privately vs trade-in. Curious what you think the realistic (private sale) asking price should be.

never been to the track, no burn-outs and never driven hard - I am assuming a GM dealer can plug it in and verify the RPMs have never been higher than what would be reasonable for responsible street driving.

Thanks
why do you need a Z06 ??? if you never drive your car hard and enjoy all the power in the first place lol.... . might as well keep your z51 C7 , just a thought

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Old 09-01-2017, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
Sorry to the OP for hijacking this thread
no problem Patman, always fun to read various C7 discussions


Originally Posted by slickpete83
why do you need a Z06 ??? if you never drive your car hard and enjoy all the power in the first place lol.... . might as well keep your z51 C7 , just a thought
Or a GS ... the wide body is growing on me

all depends though.. if I can do a seamless deal @ $55k, I will probably go through with it, otherwise I will keep it 'til the C8 comes out.

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Old 09-01-2017, 07:21 AM
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Selling a Corvette privately can be a pain.
The 13% tax incentive on a trade-in generally makes up the spread of a private sale price and a dealer offering off the lot.
My 2 cents (plus tax )
Old 09-06-2017, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadianVetster
Selling a Corvette privately can be a pain.
The 13% tax incentive on a trade-in generally makes up the spread of a private sale price and a dealer offering off the lot.
My 2 cents (plus tax )
I agree totally!
Way too many time wasting test pilots & dreamers - let alone the low balling tire kickers - to make the private sale of a sports car worth your while.
Trade it in - take the tax saving - & you'll be way ahead!
Old 09-07-2017, 06:17 AM
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The only way I'd sell my C6 privately is if someone I know on here wants it, and we would do the deal through the dealer so I could get the tax break too.
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Appreciate all the advice folks. Just to confirm, is $55k a fair number?
Old 09-07-2017, 12:49 PM
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If someone pays $55,000 for your car they are getting an amazing deal! I honestly think you should try for more. Any time I've seen a C7 show up on Auto Trader in the $55k range, it quickly disappears within a day or two. Try for a little bit more, and only come down to $55k if you have to move it quickly.
Old 09-07-2017, 02:30 PM
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C7AW

I'm not sure what dealer you're purchasing from, but when I purchased my C7 from WilsonNiblet, they listed my trade-in on a national dealer auction site. I set a minimum and three days later I found out I received more than I asked for. I thought it was a fair price and almost as good as Private. The 13% more than offset it.
Old 09-07-2017, 10:26 PM
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I bought my Z06 privately but the car was a trade for a new car. I met the seller at his house, checked the car out and settled on price. The dealership did all the paperwork. I paid the dealership not the seller. I even got a receipt from the dealer (which I've since lost).
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Originally Posted by Brian71
I bought my Z06 privately but the car was a trade for a new car. I met the seller at his house, checked the car out and settled on price. The dealership did all the paperwork. I paid the dealership not the seller. I even got a receipt from the dealer (which I've since lost).
Because you did the paperwork through the dealer, did they make you pay both GST and PST? I ask this because with a regular private sale you only have to pay one of those taxes (I forget which)
Old 09-08-2017, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
Because you did the paperwork through the dealer, did they make you pay both GST and PST? I ask this because with a regular private sale you only have to pay one of those taxes (I forget which)
Probably PST because you have to visit one of Wynne's offices...
Old 09-08-2017, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad*Max
Probably PST because you have to visit one of Wynne's offices...
How much: In most cases, buyers pay 13% RST in Ontario. The amount is based on the purchase price or the vehicle’s wholesale value, whichever is greater.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/buy-or-s...ehicle-ontario

Old 09-08-2017, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by use2bl8
How much: In most cases, buyers pay 13% RST in Ontario.
When did they change that? I know for a while if you bought a car privately you didn't have to pay the full 13% tax, it was only 6 or 7%.
Old 09-08-2017, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
When did they change that? I know for a while if you bought a car privately you didn't have to pay the full 13% tax, it was only 6 or 7%.
Pat, looks like it's been a while since you bought privately lol. This change came in at least a decade ago! The net of this is that both a private and dealer purchase have a tax owed of 13%. Basically, the govt closed the loophole on private sales.

End game, makes it more of a don't care for the buyer to help you out by processing the deal through a dealer. You can use it as leverage on a private sale with the buyer as mentioned above by others. That is, by reducing your sell price a little and going through a dealer, the buyer's net price is lower than if they bought from you privately at your original asking price.

On a private sale, a sharp buyer would ask you to take some cash and a draft for the balance and convince you to agree to sign off on the wholesale value so that he saves on the tax paid to MTO. Whether you would agree to it or not is another thing.

WIN-WIN-WIN scenario is:
You sell your car at a slightly lower private sale price...
  • You offset your HST owed as you effectively are trading in your car (i.e. you end up netting a higher sale price vs a private sale)
  • Buyer has a lower net price vs doing a private deal
  • Dealer makes some money processing the transaction for you

Hope that helps.

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Old 09-08-2017, 02:33 PM
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It has definitely been a while since I bought a car privately, 1991 in fact! Everything else since then was bought from a dealer. I also have not sold a car privately since 1998.
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Originally Posted by Patman
It has definitely been a while since I bought a car privately, 1991 in fact! Everything else since then was bought from a dealer. I also have not sold a car privately since 1998.
Last time I bought a car privately was 1992 and I have never sold privately, ever.

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Old 09-08-2017, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
Because you did the paperwork through the dealer, did they make you pay both GST and PST? I ask this because with a regular private sale you only have to pay one of those taxes (I forget which)
I purchased the car in New Brunswick. I paid 13% tax at the dealership. Because I paid the 13% in New Brunswick Service Ontario said they'd get the !3% from New Brunswick.
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modifying the post to a FS thread

my C7 is avail for $55k firm if anyone from this forum is interested
Old 09-10-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by C7AW
modifying the post to a FS thread

my C7 is avail for $55k firm if anyone from this forum is interested

fair price seemingly good car, good luck with sale

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