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Old 04-09-2019, 12:39 PM
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Apparently the police forces in Ontario have come out against this.

All those folks who tossed the plate insert are going to be scrambling. Best pop rivet yours on if this passes.
Old 04-09-2019, 01:08 PM
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I get why the police forces are against this and it makes complete sense. I know as car enthusiasts we hate it because it ruins the front end on our cars (or some feel that way, it doesn't bother me honestly) But in law enforcement if you're trying to catch a hit and run driver and you can have two chances of getting a plate number instead of one, that's a good thing. There really is no logical reason to get rid of the front plate, if you sit down and really think about it.
Old 04-09-2019, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Black 03 Z06
Apparently the police forces in Ontario have come out against this.

All those folks who tossed the plate insert are going to be scrambling. Best pop rivet yours on if this passes.
So in jurisdictions where there is no plate there a higher level of unsolved crime? Sorry, I’m not buying it. Just another use of the safety excuse to keep Ontario from moving past it’s Victorian social attitudes.
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Old 04-09-2019, 03:58 PM
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Well it will be half the price now to replace the slogan.

New slogan is going to be " A Place to Grow"
Old 04-09-2019, 07:02 PM
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Heard this morning it won’t be announced this week - but later in the year. By the way, hope it happens but don’t think for a second one plate will be cheaper to the end user than two
Old 04-09-2019, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
Heard this morning it won’t be announced this week - but later in the year. By the way, hope it happens but don’t think for a second one plate will be cheaper to the end user than two
Yes they will be half price now. But will put half the convicts out of work.
Old 04-10-2019, 10:05 AM
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Police forces are pushing back hard on this. I don't see it happening.
Old 04-10-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
I get why the police forces are against this and it makes complete sense. I know as car enthusiasts we hate it because it ruins the front end on our cars (or some feel that way, it doesn't bother me honestly) But in law enforcement if you're trying to catch a hit and run driver and you can have two chances of getting a plate number instead of one, that's a good thing. There really is no logical reason to get rid of the front plate, if you sit down and really think about it.
If you go a little deeper, there are tons of reasons to get rid of the front plate.
-Reduced number of plates --> less raw materials required, less emissions from plate manufacturing, less waste when they require disposal
-Reduced direct costs to drivers and/or increased government profit from sale of plates (depending on if they reduce licensing costs or not)
-Reduced number of plate brackets (benefits as above)
-Improved fuel economy - Unfortunately this is moot on most Corvettes, but generally a flat square surface on the front of vehicles decreases aerodynamic efficiency. This will increase in importance with the shift to electric vehicles.
-Decreased emissions due to increased fuel efficiency
-Improved vehicle re-sale value --> for two reasons, 1) Vehicles are more resalable to other jurisdictions that don't require front plates and 2) Low speed collisions result in less damage...leading into,
-Reduced Insurance rates (approx $7,000,000 per year, when applying Saskatchewan data to Ontario)

The big reason to keep front plates?
-In the event that your suspect is slow moving, it's not night time, their vehicle is reasonably clean, visibility is good, they aren't from out of province, or riding a motorcycle, and have actually decided to mount a front plate in good condition, you might be able to pick up their front plate number. If this were a legitimate problem, then quebecers working in Ottawa would need to mount front plates, people with unreadable or snow covered plates would get tickets, places without front plates would have higher crime rates, etc.

You'd have to ask an officer to be sure, but my guess is they are far more concerned with the brand/colour of the vehicle, and the driver description than plate numbers when they are looking at oncoming traffic.

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Old 04-10-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VETFEVER
Police forces are pushing back hard on this. I don't see it happening.
not going to happen LEO s are already pissed with him, especially OPP
Old 04-10-2019, 02:32 PM
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*chant* NO FRONT PLATE, NO FRONT PLATE, NO FRONT PLATE...………….

Repeat a trillion, billion times exponentially.

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Old 04-10-2019, 04:34 PM
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Ford is already pissed at the OPP so this will happen just to get back at them.
Old 04-10-2019, 05:07 PM
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He needs to put a little more effort in to politics instead of license plates and tail gate parties.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
not going to happen LEO s are already pissed with him, especially OPP
From my understanding, the cops also love to use your front plate to tag you with laser for speeding tickets and are trained to do so. Another reason for them to oppose removing them
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NickG-Z06
From my understanding, the cops also love to use your front plate to tag you with laser for speeding tickets and are trained to do so. Another reason for them to oppose removing them
Surely, their opposition to the front plate removal can't be about something as crass as ticket revenue (eye roll). My understanding is that LIDAR is effective at greater distance with a front plate as a reflective source. They can still get you without front plate, but the distance is shortened, particularly if the headlights on your car don't provide a good reflective point as an alternative to the front plate.
Old 04-11-2019, 12:44 PM
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My guess would be that they don't want to lose the ability to automatically scan your vehicle from the front when a cruiser is driving down a street.
Old 04-11-2019, 03:33 PM
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With all this bar code and scanner technology you'd think that this would have happened already, A bar code at the top of your windshield would be plenty for information.
Old 04-11-2019, 04:16 PM
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They don't need bar codes. They already have cars with cameras that can capture the plate number of every car that goes past in the other direction. The can also drive up and down the streets in subdivisions and scan every parked car.

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Old 04-11-2019, 05:07 PM
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So they announced the budget, didn't hear anything about losing the front plate unless I missed it. *bummer*
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Originally Posted by Cman01
So they announced the budget, didn't hear anything about losing the front plate unless I missed it. *bummer*
I guess Doug is just a little tease.
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Yup doesn’t mention anything about one plate unfortunately.


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