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#243
Melting Slicks
I went after it again this evening. I took plenty of advce and decided to go to a new
area of the car...the hood.
Started by claying the hood to get it very clean. Sprayed it with detail. Used brand new zaino mf towel. Used brand new orange pad. Made
a pass on half of hood. Backed into sunlight still micro scratches, much better though. Did the other side. I made a total of 2 passes with 105. The scratches are done a bunch...acceptable to where I'm pleased. Here's where I have a concern. I went at a high speed 5.5 and applied decent pressure. I made 2 passes with white pad/205. Hardly any pressure. After this I applied pinnacle liquid souveran and made a very light pass with a blue pad. Under light in a gasstation etc. It looks as if I have reallly really small pore openings in the paint. That's the best I can describe just looks like pores opened in the paint.
area of the car...the hood.
Started by claying the hood to get it very clean. Sprayed it with detail. Used brand new zaino mf towel. Used brand new orange pad. Made
a pass on half of hood. Backed into sunlight still micro scratches, much better though. Did the other side. I made a total of 2 passes with 105. The scratches are done a bunch...acceptable to where I'm pleased. Here's where I have a concern. I went at a high speed 5.5 and applied decent pressure. I made 2 passes with white pad/205. Hardly any pressure. After this I applied pinnacle liquid souveran and made a very light pass with a blue pad. Under light in a gasstation etc. It looks as if I have reallly really small pore openings in the paint. That's the best I can describe just looks like pores opened in the paint.
#244
Some deeper scratches may remain. Keep in mind your paint is VERY hard, so the deeper scratches may not come out without a rotary polisher and/or wet sanding.
As for the tiny "speckles" in your paint, that's completely normal. Most cars have it, and I'm really not sure what causes it. Some say it's solvent popping, others say it may be rain etching...either way there is no way to remove it and it's on most cars. You just don't see it until the swirls are removed.
As for the tiny "speckles" in your paint, that's completely normal. Most cars have it, and I'm really not sure what causes it. Some say it's solvent popping, others say it may be rain etching...either way there is no way to remove it and it's on most cars. You just don't see it until the swirls are removed.
#247
Melting Slicks
I got very positive results
from friends on my hood results. I 105-205 about 2-3 passes. Put some liquid souveran with a blue pad on about speed 3-4. Then added a thin thin layer of dodo juice. Hopefully I can do car this weekend and post some results.
from friends on my hood results. I 105-205 about 2-3 passes. Put some liquid souveran with a blue pad on about speed 3-4. Then added a thin thin layer of dodo juice. Hopefully I can do car this weekend and post some results.
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St. Jude Donor '10
Rejex ?
I just ordered a bottle of Rejex from you the other day. What steps should be taken before applying the sealant? Clay, swirl remover, polish, Rejex? What about a wax after the sealant? I've been using Adams for a while now and still have a lot of product and it works great but I wanted to try something different especially since Rejex claims nothing will stick. I like that!
How does Rejex and Liquid Glass compare?
Thanks!
Dan Patton
How does Rejex and Liquid Glass compare?
Thanks!
Dan Patton
#249
RejeX is a bit easier to use IMO, and way slicker. It's very easy on/off, SUPER slick, and very durable. Hell, I put some on my sunglasses and they're that much easier to clean.
As for your process, a bare minimum would be a wash and clay before using RejeX. If your paint needs swirl removal, then you will want to use the swirl remover and polish after claying, before applying RejeX. No need to wax after.
As for your process, a bare minimum would be a wash and clay before using RejeX. If your paint needs swirl removal, then you will want to use the swirl remover and polish after claying, before applying RejeX. No need to wax after.
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I got one for ya. My dad and I have been looking at Dual action buffers for a while, so for just a couple guys who go to the car shows on the weekend and dont plan of anything on the national level, which one should we go with? I've looked at the Porter Cable and the FLEX.
#251
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I got one for ya. My dad and I have been looking at Dual action buffers for a while, so for just a couple guys who go to the car shows on the weekend and dont plan of anything on the national level, which one should we go with? I've looked at the Porter Cable and the FLEX.
Let me first suggest there is no wrong choice in random orbital buffers. All the new ones on the market, and the advent of very user friendly polishes, makes the choice harder than ever.
Porter Cable XP ---- a proven buffer was updated with a slightly more powerful motor and more user friendly design. Most detailers have the original and will discuss the years and years of use.
Griots Random Orbital --- this was an upgrade to their original design and slightly more powerful than the PC-XP. Griots stands behind their machines like no other and enpower resellers like Autogeek to do the same.
Flex --- a very powerful random orbital with a forced drive. When it first released it became the Bentley in buffers and everyone wanted the best. It does cost more, almost twice, but you wont need to spend the extra $$ to upgrade later. It blured the line between RO's and rotary buffers. Its a really cool and powerful option.
Now to be honest I have them all in my garage, and go back and forth with them often. With the PC and Griots I like 5 inch backing plate and flat 5.5 inch pads to really hone in the benefits of these buffers. With the Flex (other than the Edge Adapter and pads) you are locked into the factory backing plate and using 6.5 inch pads for best results.
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Now to be honest I have them all in my garage, and go back and forth with them often. With the PC and Griots I like 5 inch backing plate and flat 5.5 inch pads to really hone in the benefits of these buffers. With the Flex (other than the Edge Adapter and pads) you are locked into the factory backing plate and using 6.5 inch pads for best results.
Now to be honest I have them all in my garage, and go back and forth with them often. With the PC and Griots I like 5 inch backing plate and flat 5.5 inch pads to really hone in the benefits of these buffers. With the Flex (other than the Edge Adapter and pads) you are locked into the factory backing plate and using 6.5 inch pads for best results.
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Nate
#253
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With the Flex you are limited to 6.5 inch pads due to the 6 inch backing plate which is included with unit.
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the smaller 5.5 inch pads (remember backing plate would be 5 inches so pad needs to be a bit bigger to protect edge of backing plate from coming into contact with paint) seem to work best and most efficiently with Griots and PC. You do need to purchase the backing plate too.
With the Flex you are limited to 6.5 inch pads due to the 6 inch backing plate which is included with unit.
With the Flex you are limited to 6.5 inch pads due to the 6 inch backing plate which is included with unit.
Good to know, thanks for the info!
My Z is black, dads is red, so you see EVERYTHING on mine. Actually, Ive never seen her without the swirl marks, think we're gonna pull the trigger on a DA PC purchase.
#256
Me again. Bought you kit with PC, Menzerna and a couple more waxes. Used it a couple times, the car looks much better, however I still have lots of scratches and swirls plus a bird drop.
Do I need a more abrasive set? A got a few pads, orange, white, red, black and the Menzerna is medium cut (super intensive polish).
And usually how long does it take to polish the hood ? I don't know if I should spend more time and pass several times or just a couple times should be enough. How much pressure ?
Do I need a more abrasive set? A got a few pads, orange, white, red, black and the Menzerna is medium cut (super intensive polish).
And usually how long does it take to polish the hood ? I don't know if I should spend more time and pass several times or just a couple times should be enough. How much pressure ?
#257
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Me again. Bought you kit with PC, Menzerna and a couple more waxes. Used it a couple times, the car looks much better, however I still have lots of scratches and swirls plus a bird drop.
Do I need a more abrasive set? A got a few pads, orange, white, red, black and the Menzerna is medium cut (super intensive polish).
And usually how long does it take to polish the hood ? I don't know if I should spend more time and pass several times or just a couple times should be enough. How much pressure ?
Do I need a more abrasive set? A got a few pads, orange, white, red, black and the Menzerna is medium cut (super intensive polish).
And usually how long does it take to polish the hood ? I don't know if I should spend more time and pass several times or just a couple times should be enough. How much pressure ?
SIP is pretty abrasive initially and should work in most cases. I would break hood down into 6 areas (3 per side) and use SIP with an orange pad. Use buffer on high speed and some pressure, but not enough to stop the head from orbiting. Pass over each area in several directions for several minutes until the polish starts to dry and flash.
If you then wipe down with alcohol/water mix you should be able to judge the look. If you have alot of smaller marks (called micromarring) then consider same polish and white pad.
Once you are comfortable with look, use the final polish from kit and grey or blue finishing pads. Use high speed and no pressure and really amp up the gloss and reflection on this step.
It is hard to give an actual time for hood polishing, but in general a couple hours the first time is usually needed. From there if you use good wash and dry techniques you might find only final polishing is needed occassionally.
#259
Former Vendor
The Daytona Brush will work and gets around most calipers. The big brake system is harder and the smaller EZ Detail brush is an option or moving car slightly to get area on front wheels where caliper sits close to wheels.
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Ok, so I just used the PC DA buffer I bought from you guys and I still see water spots and swirls. I followed the instructional DVD all the way to the polish. When I was done with that, water spots were still there. Do I need a more abrasive compound? Im buffing an '01 Black Z, so I know stuff will still show, but it looks nothing like the outcome on the DVD. Suggestions?