bigcypress

yes , i did a search and got ZERO . if one waxes or uses a simple sealer , adds something like mcguires '' fast finish [?]'' , and then puts on a quick detailer are the first two products just wasted or is there a benefit from them . . . peace

ronkh57

Sometimes benefit, sometimes no.

Only real way to tell, is to try or hit forums like here, autogeek, autopia and read about em.

rcharrison1

I use Synthetic Sealant and wax which is overkill and car is garage kept. Sometime ago, I tried some Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish and fell in love with it. My Vette is Crystal Red Metallic and the Ultimate Fast Finish adds to the depth of shine - at least in my opinion. Takes less than 10 minutes to do the entire car. Since I started using it, there are 2 very good videos on You Tube you should watch.

joeybsyc

While there are exceptions... My experiences have proven that more times than not the last thing you put on your paint is the one thing protecting it....and 5 coats of something isn't really any better than 1. The other 4 coats just give you a better chance of not having any spots missed.

People like to tell you putting 10 coats on and "layering" products between, under, and over other products are doing something (including the companies who SELL the stuff) but that's not really the case, or my paint would be 2" underneath all the stuff I've used.

LV Vette

I was just about to ask the same question. Sounds like I will save some time by just using the meguiers ultimate fast finish!

ronkh57

I DO normally layer, but my "normal" would be 2 coats sealant (to assure coverage) then after proper cure time, then wax for that "special look"

TrackAire

My personal opinion is nothing can be truly layered that doesn't dry hard and can be chipped off. Your applicators would dry hard and crusty, as if you left raw egg white on it.

Think of waxes and sealants as motor oil. If you tried to wax your car with motor oil and tried to come back tomorrow to apply another coat, what would happen?

Most waxes and sealants are petroleum based or natural oils....Putting more on too soon just removes the previous coat and adds the new coat.

Products with fillers and products used to hide damage may look like they are better when you put multiple coats on, but in reality you're just filling in more minor scratches (not a bad thing).

Again, just my opinion....I'm not a professional detailer or chemist.

yamabob

Carnuba in paste form can be layered without removing previous applications. They are not by nature petroleum based but will use a solvent to keep softor in the case of liquid wax in suspension. When carnuba " flash" that is the carrier agents being released. Sealant's act a little different as they form a chemical bond ( the polymers form a cross link chain) to the surface. These can also be layered to a degree. Without the addition of polychargers this process can take up to 24 hours to complete in which case you are in effect removing a portion of the first layer. As Ron stated a second layer is/can be used to insure complete coverage. Too many layers can have an adverse affect as they are not 100% optically clear and can start yo muddle the clarity.
Cleaner wax's have a much higher petroleum distillate content and use that to help "clean " the paint. These are definitely products that removes the previous layer with the addition of another layer

bigcypress

so putting quick detailer over mcguires fast finish is pointless , just a waste of material and effort . thanks to all . . . peace

Patman

The quick detailer isn't wasted though, because even if it's not providing another layer of protection, it is removing dust and adding a tiny little bit more shine. I use Ultimate Fast Finish on my Corvette and when removing dust I use Ultimate Quik Detailer and it does seem to help it shine a little bit more

z06clif

Zaino can be layered endlessly with improvement every time. I also found that Adams Brilliant Glaze can be layered with improving results every time. Ive used both at different times with noticably visible results.

Clif

dfettero

TrackAire

Excellent and honest explanation of wax, sealants and glazes and their lifespans in different conditions. Very informative.

Kudo's to Adams for a great video.

LS WON

Liquid Glass Polish (gold can with pink C2 vert on it-a long time product) covers up scratches and blemishes good. Been using this product since 1979. It's is one of those products that claim the more you put on the more protection you have and to let the paint finish bake in sun for a few hours. If no sun polish should set on paint for 6 hours.

Boomer111

Once one wax's over a sealant the wax needs to be removed, or worn away, before the sealant can be reapplied.

I think this is the issue with most sealants. I know it is with the Klasse acrylic sealant. So I just add some Klasse sealant to my detail spray to maintained and layer the protection. True I miss out on a softer look of the wax but after all I am after protection primarily.

TCW

I've used Zaino for many years and find that each layer (up to 5) gets clearer and deeper. After 5 coats I can't see much if any difference.

Dark colors show the effects of layering more so than light colors.

Tom

ronkh57

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...and-gloss.html

ronkh57

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...he-bottle.html

ronkh57

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...phase-two.html

z06clif

.....but Im reminded of a former Forum member "Wolfdog" He had a black C6 and the guy would put literally a 100 layers of Zaino on his car and after awhile it looked like a mirror. He always posted pictures and this memory is what prompted my response. It reaaly looked better after every post

Clif