ECS Hardcore Drag Parts: Not for the faint of heart.
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ECS Hardcore Drag Parts: Not for the faint of heart.
As most are aware, we’ve been working towards innovating a number of drag specific parts for your C5 or C6. As time marches on, we have found that many of you have decided to make your cars geared more for your specific racing needs, which is where we come in! Using my own 99 Convertible, and other customer vehicles as a test cars, we feel as though many of these products are now plenty proven and ready for resale for your own drag racing Projects.
Here’s a breakdown of the mods developed with Drag racing in mind!
1) The Pfadt Drag System
2) Pfadt Drive Train Mounts
3) Pfadt Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft
4) ECS Powerglide Package
5) ECS 15 in Wheel / Spindle Kit
6) ECS HD Axles
7) ECS Halfshaft Safety Loops
8) ECS Spool Kit
9) ECS Manual Rack and Pinion Steering Assembly
10) ECS Alternator Relocation Kit
11) ECS Torque Tamer
12) ECS manual brake master kit
13) Eaton C5/C6 carrier with HD shafts, available only threw ECS
Working closely with the team at Pfadt Race Engineering, we’ve assembled a proven suspension set up that can yield 1.2 (and dropping) sixty foots at the track, and actually remain relatively “streetable” if your car shares time on the strip and on the street. As the developer of the ECS parts, and the only shop to actually use them to break new ground we are proud to offer them up!
For those who want to retain the IRS, Starting with a solid overall suspension was critical. Pfadt stepped up to the plate by designing a true adjustable suspension that works. The combination of a Drag Specific Coil Over, Polyurethane or spherical C-Arm bearing kit, and a ridged rear sway bar have proven to be aggressive, yet comfortable on the street, but up to the task of keeping the tires planted and the rear suspension square to enable to the car to jump out of the hole.
So with more than a few sub 1.3sec 60’s, I think we can now say that the Pfadt Drag packages works! We are offering it in two stages:
Drag 1 System:
The Stage 1 system is comprised of Pfadt Coil Overs set up with Drag Specific Springs a Pfadt Competition Rear Bar and Pfadt Poly Control Arm Bushings. This set up is a bit more forgiving on the street, but helps greatly towards reducing the bushing deflection and resulting toe-in that is inherent under hard launches with the stock rubber bushings in C5 and C6.
Pricing is as follows: C5/C6 Steel Frame - non C6 Z06: $2755.00 C6 Z06 Aluminum Frame: $2850.00
Drag 2 System: (exactly what I run)
The Stage 2 System is pretty much the same set up as far as the Coil Overs and Sway bars, but it includes the Spherical Bearing vs. a bushing. The Sphericals are a very trick part and as they are solid units, they will eliminate any deflection. If your primary use will be at the drag strip, this should be your choice!
C5/C6 Steel Frame - non C6 Z06: $4210.00 C6 Z06 Aluminum Frame: $4305.00
To anchor the rest of the drive line, I’m also using Pfadt Engine Mounts and Pfadt Trans/Diff Mounts. These two components are selected to reduce the drive line shake inherent in these cars. The mounts are much more rigid, thereby all but eliminating the movement of the Drive line.
Engine Mounts: Retail $250.00
Pfadt Trans / Diff mounts: C5 Retail $340.00 C6/C6 Z06 Retail $290.00 3. Rear Pillow Blocks: Retail $125.00
Not in the car yet, but will be shortly, is the Pfadt Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft System: It’s a shame that it goes inside the torque tube!
Aside from looking like artwork, The Pfadt Carbon Fiber drive shaft assembly weighs only 4.28 pounds! That is a weight savings of 52%. What's important is that this weight reduction is rotating mass!
The Pfadt C5/C6 Carbon Fiber Shaft Retails for $2000
As good as the Pfadt Components are, we felt that there was still some room for improvement in drive line from a standpoint of strength and durability, as well as a opportunity to reduce weight. . One of my favorite things about the current set up is that it’s dead reliable… it literally has only been on the lift to swap the drag pack to street tires and to change the oil! Nothing like having a car you can turn the key and drive.
ECS Powerglide
Obviously, the first change we made was the Powerglide conversion. This was a huge step up in durability. You can tell me all day long that the glide makes it a full time race car, but the reality is, when you’ve broken as many trannys as we have, not having to worry about blowing a trans is a vast improvement. Plus it gives your newer car a "hot rod" feel on the street, if you have had 60's cars in the past, it puts the car somewhere in the middle while street driving. You can run a 10 sec index class all year long and your biggest worry will be lights and launch.
The ECS Powerglide Package is comprised of a Reid case and custom internals assembled to accept the custom shafts we have manufactured to work with the C5/C6 and C6Z rear ends. The Kit comes completely assembled with the trans, adapter plates, tail housing and trans/rear end brace. It’s literally a bolt in swap. You select your converter and shifter based upon your build. With my 3.42 ratio, street driving is not bad, and I can still tool around at 60+mph. The best part is, if you wanted to return to stock, it would be pretty much undetectable. There is no cutting, no pounding – no body modifications at all, and installs as fast as a stock trans swap. We have the part numbers etc for a shifter and cable that bolt right in, and looks factory (on steroids) when you reinstall the stock shift boot. No need to make the interior look shabby with this mod, or bringing it to an interior shop to do it.
I am running a std C5ZO6 rear, with 3.42 gears (cryo'd) both hardened shafts, and our spool kit. We do offer the PG with a C6Zo6 shaft also btw.
Many people have been asking me how we keep the diff's together at these levels. What is not taken into consideration by most is that the torque multiplication threw the glide is much less then a six speed, or 4l60 or 4l80. Thus making the entire drive train more reliable, not just the transmission.
For example;
the first gear of a powerglide (which can be changed) is 1.8, so if you are making 1000ftlbs of torque, the pinion will see 1,800 ftlbs of torque to it.
The exact same 1000ftlbs of torque to a six speed ZO6, which has a 2.97 first gear ratio, will see a pinion torque of 2,970 ftlbs.
The same 1000ftlbs of torque going threw a 4l60, with a 3.06 first gear ratio, ends up at 3,060 ftlbs of torqe applied to the pinion.
Common sense can tell you that with at least another 1000ft lbs of torque being applied to the stock rear housing, the chance of failure is drastically higher.
So with better 60' times, better/faster trans brake, more reliability from the whole drive train as a whole, for a racer it is a no brainer. The price is reasonable enough that a few years later you want to switch back to your stock trans because you dont have the time to race as much, or whatever, you can switch back to the stock trans in an afternoon, and sell the set up for reasonable return. It would cost less to do that, then to race with a 4l60 that needs to be rebuilt each year, let alone the other advantages.
The Powerglide package comes complete for $6999
15 in Spindle Kit:
you want more hook, you need more tire. The factory spindles greatly reduce our options. We changed that by designing a completely new spindle that works with factory ball joint and c-arms. The smaller height of these spindles allow for the use of a 15in rim and tire package. I run them with a 15X11 Weld wheel combo with Mickey Thompson ET Drags 28x11.5x15. No noticeable difference at all on the street, but with 1.2 60 foots, I feel this was a great addition to the cars overall set up.
We put the package together with a Strange Slotted Rotor and Caliper package. It’s a direct bolt in, and the bigger sidewall is a huge benefit if your making real power and coming out hard.
Turbo guys, we have a dual rear caliper option available and in use already, call for pricing.
The Spindle kit retails for $1995.00
HD Axles –
These HD axles were developed with serious hp in mind! These axles Include larger diameter 300M axle bars (increased from 1.125" to 1.375"), larger 33 spline outer CV (increased from 30 spline), and hubs (with bearing) to accommodate the larger outer spline. This kit also uses our 108mm Porsche-style inner CV joints with our chromoly bolt-on inner flanges. In order to achieve optimum strength, we have increased the diameter of the seal surface on the bolt-on inner flanges and include new axle seals to accommodate them. Rated to 1000HP with a 1-year warranty. Also available are the new direct replacement 300M differential spline output shafts, also with a 1-year warranty.
Price $2299.00
ECS Halfshaft Safety Loops:
$229
NHRA requires half shaft loops for Corvettes running faster than 10.99. We spoke to an NHRA tech before we started our design and followed what they required. We have our C5 kit ready and in production with the C6 units soon to come. It takes only 15-20 minutes to install these half shaft safety loops.
ECS Spool Kit:
In quest for more traction, many of you have tried aftermarket carriers with the hopes of more consistent traction and eliminate blowing clutches. Problem is, on the road the feel like a locker, or just short of a spool, and are heavy. So that got us thinking.
With that in mind, we developed this easily installed, easily reversible spool kit for C5’s and C6’s. Its effective, inexpensive and now proven. These bolt directly into the stock C5/C6 carrier. The car does bind some in sharp turns as expected, but was completely tolerable, (to a racer that is) but probably not something for your DD.
Price: $194.99
The ECS Manual Rack & Pinion steering system reduces weight and parasitic drag caused by the factory power steering and pump assembly. This kit comes complete with a Flaming River pinto style rack, aluminum rack extensions with Teflon sleeved tie rod ends, bump steer kit, 3 Sweet universal joints (one machined to fit the C5 Steering shaft), aluminum mounting brackets with auxiliary steering shaft support, and all necessary mounting hardware and jam nuts. Some fabrication to the front cradle is required but the system is carefully designed to maintain the stock steering radius.
(the picture below also has the alternator relocation brackets pictured, which is sold separately)
Pricing for everything is $1,395, and $99 for the alt relocation kit if purchased together as pictured below.
Our alternator relocation kit allows you to relocate your alternator where the factory air conditioner mounts. This feature allows the serious drag racer to drive the alternator off the 4 rib provision on stock or overdrive crank dampers. This optional kit comes with brackets, hardware and a new alternator pulley. (comes with a different pulley than shown – this was a mock up photo).
Although great for a supercharged car like my own, NA guys can go with an electric water pump and no longer need their 6 rib serpentine belt with these mods! Leaving a ton of room for things like a vacuum pump assy, or whatever you can dream up.
Sold separately for $169, includes hardware and brackets. We have a wiring kit (plug and play) optional for $30.
Torque Tamer
For the high hp guys we have made a new product we call the "torque tamer" that suppresses the torque arm lifting effect of the entire drive train upon heavy launches that causes a great deal of stress to the rear of the torque tube. Most straight axle cars have what is know as a torque arm to stop the entire differential from spinning in the opposite direction of the wheels, which transfers the torque from the wheels to the body of the car. Our Corvettes have a Torque tube which now does all of that. On a stock car, the weight of the trans assembly, and strength of the tube is plenty enough to suppress the flexing of the torque tube itself. Once we start adding gobs of HP, this is not enough. What happens is that the torque tube flexes pretty badly, with the bulk of the load right at the rear of the tube.
The torque Tamer keeps the torque tube from flexing at that point, and distributes the torque load throughout the car better then just the motor mounts only. It also protects the drive shaft from taking the flex as well.
$189
bolt in manual brake master kit
once you have gone with lightweight brake rotors and calipers, it's time to finish off the system correctly. We have came up with a manual brake master kit that bolts directly into the stock booster placement. The factor pedal works great, and we supply the rod needed to bolt to it. The placement of the master is raised from stock, so the fulcrum point of the pedal is higher, giving you an easier pedal. $359
EATON HD CARRIER FOR C5 & C6
It Comes with Hardened shafts Left and Right, No Bevel Washers (that often fail in stock carriers), 3 hardened Spider Gears vs 2, Spiral Loc half shaft retainers, all this in a billet aluminum case that weighs almost 6 pounds lighter than stock.
ECS is the exclusive distributer of these carriers, and right now have access to 10 units.
This also includes both hardened shafts which is nearly the cost of the carrier by itself.
The best part is that these are priced right… $779.99 plus s&h. Dealers pricing is available.
We will fully build your rear in house with this carrier, new gears (ratio of your choice) for $2379. Turn Key. Less expensive if you want to keep your current gears.
All products are currently available from ECS!!!! Lets Go racing!!!
We have several other custom ECS parts that we will be adding to this list and updating as time allows. From hide away parachute mounts, flywheels, and more!
Thanks for taking the time to read all of this!
Here’s a breakdown of the mods developed with Drag racing in mind!
1) The Pfadt Drag System
2) Pfadt Drive Train Mounts
3) Pfadt Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft
4) ECS Powerglide Package
5) ECS 15 in Wheel / Spindle Kit
6) ECS HD Axles
7) ECS Halfshaft Safety Loops
8) ECS Spool Kit
9) ECS Manual Rack and Pinion Steering Assembly
10) ECS Alternator Relocation Kit
11) ECS Torque Tamer
12) ECS manual brake master kit
13) Eaton C5/C6 carrier with HD shafts, available only threw ECS
Working closely with the team at Pfadt Race Engineering, we’ve assembled a proven suspension set up that can yield 1.2 (and dropping) sixty foots at the track, and actually remain relatively “streetable” if your car shares time on the strip and on the street. As the developer of the ECS parts, and the only shop to actually use them to break new ground we are proud to offer them up!
For those who want to retain the IRS, Starting with a solid overall suspension was critical. Pfadt stepped up to the plate by designing a true adjustable suspension that works. The combination of a Drag Specific Coil Over, Polyurethane or spherical C-Arm bearing kit, and a ridged rear sway bar have proven to be aggressive, yet comfortable on the street, but up to the task of keeping the tires planted and the rear suspension square to enable to the car to jump out of the hole.
So with more than a few sub 1.3sec 60’s, I think we can now say that the Pfadt Drag packages works! We are offering it in two stages:
Drag 1 System:
The Stage 1 system is comprised of Pfadt Coil Overs set up with Drag Specific Springs a Pfadt Competition Rear Bar and Pfadt Poly Control Arm Bushings. This set up is a bit more forgiving on the street, but helps greatly towards reducing the bushing deflection and resulting toe-in that is inherent under hard launches with the stock rubber bushings in C5 and C6.
Pricing is as follows: C5/C6 Steel Frame - non C6 Z06: $2755.00 C6 Z06 Aluminum Frame: $2850.00
Drag 2 System: (exactly what I run)
The Stage 2 System is pretty much the same set up as far as the Coil Overs and Sway bars, but it includes the Spherical Bearing vs. a bushing. The Sphericals are a very trick part and as they are solid units, they will eliminate any deflection. If your primary use will be at the drag strip, this should be your choice!
C5/C6 Steel Frame - non C6 Z06: $4210.00 C6 Z06 Aluminum Frame: $4305.00
To anchor the rest of the drive line, I’m also using Pfadt Engine Mounts and Pfadt Trans/Diff Mounts. These two components are selected to reduce the drive line shake inherent in these cars. The mounts are much more rigid, thereby all but eliminating the movement of the Drive line.
Engine Mounts: Retail $250.00
Pfadt Trans / Diff mounts: C5 Retail $340.00 C6/C6 Z06 Retail $290.00 3. Rear Pillow Blocks: Retail $125.00
Not in the car yet, but will be shortly, is the Pfadt Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft System: It’s a shame that it goes inside the torque tube!
Aside from looking like artwork, The Pfadt Carbon Fiber drive shaft assembly weighs only 4.28 pounds! That is a weight savings of 52%. What's important is that this weight reduction is rotating mass!
The Pfadt C5/C6 Carbon Fiber Shaft Retails for $2000
As good as the Pfadt Components are, we felt that there was still some room for improvement in drive line from a standpoint of strength and durability, as well as a opportunity to reduce weight. . One of my favorite things about the current set up is that it’s dead reliable… it literally has only been on the lift to swap the drag pack to street tires and to change the oil! Nothing like having a car you can turn the key and drive.
ECS Powerglide
Obviously, the first change we made was the Powerglide conversion. This was a huge step up in durability. You can tell me all day long that the glide makes it a full time race car, but the reality is, when you’ve broken as many trannys as we have, not having to worry about blowing a trans is a vast improvement. Plus it gives your newer car a "hot rod" feel on the street, if you have had 60's cars in the past, it puts the car somewhere in the middle while street driving. You can run a 10 sec index class all year long and your biggest worry will be lights and launch.
The ECS Powerglide Package is comprised of a Reid case and custom internals assembled to accept the custom shafts we have manufactured to work with the C5/C6 and C6Z rear ends. The Kit comes completely assembled with the trans, adapter plates, tail housing and trans/rear end brace. It’s literally a bolt in swap. You select your converter and shifter based upon your build. With my 3.42 ratio, street driving is not bad, and I can still tool around at 60+mph.
The best part is, if you wanted to return to stock, it would be pretty much undetectable. There is no cutting, no pounding – no body modifications at all, and installs as fast as a stock trans swap. We have the part numbers etc for a shifter and cable that bolt right in, and looks factory (on steroids) when you reinstall the stock shift boot. No need to make the interior look shabby with this mod, or bringing it to an interior shop to do it. I am running a std C5ZO6 rear, with 3.42 gears (cryo'd) both hardened shafts, and our spool kit. We do offer the PG with a C6Zo6 shaft also btw.
Many people have been asking me how we keep the diff's together at these levels. What is not taken into consideration by most is that the torque multiplication threw the glide is much less then a six speed, or 4l60 or 4l80. Thus making the entire drive train more reliable, not just the transmission.
For example;
the first gear of a powerglide (which can be changed) is 1.8, so if you are making 1000ftlbs of torque, the pinion will see 1,800 ftlbs of torque to it.
The exact same 1000ftlbs of torque to a six speed ZO6, which has a 2.97 first gear ratio, will see a pinion torque of 2,970 ftlbs.
The same 1000ftlbs of torque going threw a 4l60, with a 3.06 first gear ratio, ends up at 3,060 ftlbs of torqe applied to the pinion.
Common sense can tell you that with at least another 1000ft lbs of torque being applied to the stock rear housing, the chance of failure is drastically higher.
So with better 60' times, better/faster trans brake, more reliability from the whole drive train as a whole, for a racer it is a no brainer. The price is reasonable enough that a few years later you want to switch back to your stock trans because you dont have the time to race as much, or whatever, you can switch back to the stock trans in an afternoon, and sell the set up for reasonable return. It would cost less to do that, then to race with a 4l60 that needs to be rebuilt each year, let alone the other advantages.
The Powerglide package comes complete for $6999
15 in Spindle Kit:
you want more hook, you need more tire. The factory spindles greatly reduce our options. We changed that by designing a completely new spindle that works with factory ball joint and c-arms. The smaller height of these spindles allow for the use of a 15in rim and tire package. I run them with a 15X11 Weld wheel combo with Mickey Thompson ET Drags 28x11.5x15. No noticeable difference at all on the street, but with 1.2 60 foots, I feel this was a great addition to the cars overall set up.
We put the package together with a Strange Slotted Rotor and Caliper package. It’s a direct bolt in, and the bigger sidewall is a huge benefit if your making real power and coming out hard.
Turbo guys, we have a dual rear caliper option available and in use already, call for pricing.
The Spindle kit retails for $1995.00
HD Axles –
These HD axles were developed with serious hp in mind! These axles Include larger diameter 300M axle bars (increased from 1.125" to 1.375"), larger 33 spline outer CV (increased from 30 spline), and hubs (with bearing) to accommodate the larger outer spline. This kit also uses our 108mm Porsche-style inner CV joints with our chromoly bolt-on inner flanges. In order to achieve optimum strength, we have increased the diameter of the seal surface on the bolt-on inner flanges and include new axle seals to accommodate them. Rated to 1000HP with a 1-year warranty. Also available are the new direct replacement 300M differential spline output shafts, also with a 1-year warranty.
Price $2299.00
ECS Halfshaft Safety Loops:
$229
NHRA requires half shaft loops for Corvettes running faster than 10.99. We spoke to an NHRA tech before we started our design and followed what they required. We have our C5 kit ready and in production with the C6 units soon to come. It takes only 15-20 minutes to install these half shaft safety loops.
ECS Spool Kit:
In quest for more traction, many of you have tried aftermarket carriers with the hopes of more consistent traction and eliminate blowing clutches. Problem is, on the road the feel like a locker, or just short of a spool, and are heavy. So that got us thinking.
With that in mind, we developed this easily installed, easily reversible spool kit for C5’s and C6’s. Its effective, inexpensive and now proven. These bolt directly into the stock C5/C6 carrier. The car does bind some in sharp turns as expected, but was completely tolerable, (to a racer that is) but probably not something for your DD.
Price: $194.99
The ECS Manual Rack & Pinion steering system reduces weight and parasitic drag caused by the factory power steering and pump assembly. This kit comes complete with a Flaming River pinto style rack, aluminum rack extensions with Teflon sleeved tie rod ends, bump steer kit, 3 Sweet universal joints (one machined to fit the C5 Steering shaft), aluminum mounting brackets with auxiliary steering shaft support, and all necessary mounting hardware and jam nuts. Some fabrication to the front cradle is required but the system is carefully designed to maintain the stock steering radius.
(the picture below also has the alternator relocation brackets pictured, which is sold separately)
Pricing for everything is $1,395, and $99 for the alt relocation kit if purchased together as pictured below.
Our alternator relocation kit allows you to relocate your alternator where the factory air conditioner mounts. This feature allows the serious drag racer to drive the alternator off the 4 rib provision on stock or overdrive crank dampers. This optional kit comes with brackets, hardware and a new alternator pulley. (comes with a different pulley than shown – this was a mock up photo).
Although great for a supercharged car like my own, NA guys can go with an electric water pump and no longer need their 6 rib serpentine belt with these mods! Leaving a ton of room for things like a vacuum pump assy, or whatever you can dream up.
Sold separately for $169, includes hardware and brackets. We have a wiring kit (plug and play) optional for $30.
Torque Tamer
For the high hp guys we have made a new product we call the "torque tamer" that suppresses the torque arm lifting effect of the entire drive train upon heavy launches that causes a great deal of stress to the rear of the torque tube. Most straight axle cars have what is know as a torque arm to stop the entire differential from spinning in the opposite direction of the wheels, which transfers the torque from the wheels to the body of the car. Our Corvettes have a Torque tube which now does all of that. On a stock car, the weight of the trans assembly, and strength of the tube is plenty enough to suppress the flexing of the torque tube itself. Once we start adding gobs of HP, this is not enough. What happens is that the torque tube flexes pretty badly, with the bulk of the load right at the rear of the tube.
The torque Tamer keeps the torque tube from flexing at that point, and distributes the torque load throughout the car better then just the motor mounts only. It also protects the drive shaft from taking the flex as well.
$189
bolt in manual brake master kit
once you have gone with lightweight brake rotors and calipers, it's time to finish off the system correctly. We have came up with a manual brake master kit that bolts directly into the stock booster placement. The factor pedal works great, and we supply the rod needed to bolt to it. The placement of the master is raised from stock, so the fulcrum point of the pedal is higher, giving you an easier pedal. $359
EATON HD CARRIER FOR C5 & C6
It Comes with Hardened shafts Left and Right, No Bevel Washers (that often fail in stock carriers), 3 hardened Spider Gears vs 2, Spiral Loc half shaft retainers, all this in a billet aluminum case that weighs almost 6 pounds lighter than stock.
ECS is the exclusive distributer of these carriers, and right now have access to 10 units.
This also includes both hardened shafts which is nearly the cost of the carrier by itself.
The best part is that these are priced right… $779.99 plus s&h. Dealers pricing is available.
We will fully build your rear in house with this carrier, new gears (ratio of your choice) for $2379. Turn Key.
Less expensive if you want to keep your current gears. All products are currently available from ECS!!!!
Lets Go racing!!! We have several other custom ECS parts that we will be adding to this list and updating as time allows. From hide away parachute mounts, flywheels, and more!
Thanks for taking the time to read all of this!
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09-11-2009, 06:13 PM
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I think you should install some of this while my car is in the shop, so I can do further testing for you. 
09-11-2009, 07:14 PM
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I'm thinking both your (former 
) car as well as Dennis's could both benefit from some suspension upgrades like that...Dennis's car was hittin' 1.41s/1.43s as it was so I can't imagine where it could potentially be with some some Pfadt under there! 
And the reliability/durability/simplicity of that 'glide sure is tempting after I look at what a decent A6 rebuild might cost
if I ever need it LOL.
09-11-2009, 08:04 PM
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Most people don't Tony, the stock suspension has so much "give" to it that it would surprise most. That give is simply wasted forward motion, and usually the last thing thought about to the average C5/C6 drag racer.
We are trying to change that thought process, and let people know that there are gains in your car without having to add power.
I now have enough data from my car and others to feel confident enough to say that not only can we sell you the parts that we do not make here, but we can set the car up better then the average shop to get the results desired, and pass the alignment specs etc to the shop/person installing them around the world for the same results.
09-11-2009, 08:08 PM
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Yeah, some of those Pfadt pieces are very cool and they work too. I'm thinking both your (former ) car as well as Dennis's could both benefit from some suspension upgrades like that...Dennis's car was hittin' 1.41s/1.43s as it was so I can't imagine where it could potentially be with some some Pfadt under there!
And the reliability/durability/simplicity of that 'glide sure is tempting after I look at what a decent A6 rebuild might cost if I ever need it LOL.
I'm thinking both your (former ) car as well as Dennis's could both benefit from some suspension upgrades like that...Dennis's car was hittin' 1.41s/1.43s as it was so I can't imagine where it could potentially be with some some Pfadt under there! And the reliability/durability/simplicity of that 'glide sure is tempting after I look at what a decent A6 rebuild might cost
if I ever need it LOL.I'll bet Dennis' car hits 1.3's with the full suspension package, I would even bet a lot, and not not a gambling man.
09-11-2009, 08:38 PM
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Most people don't Tony, the stock suspension has so much "give" to it that it would surprise most. That give is simply wasted forward motion, and usually the last thing thought about to the average C5/C6 drag racer.
We are trying to change that thought process, and let people know that there are gains in your car without having to add power.
I now have enough data from my car and others to feel confident enough to say that not only can we sell you the parts that we do not make here, but we can set the car up better then the average shop to get the results desired, and pass the alignment specs etc to the shop/person installing them around the world for the same results.
We are trying to change that thought process, and let people know that there are gains in your car without having to add power.
I now have enough data from my car and others to feel confident enough to say that not only can we sell you the parts that we do not make here, but we can set the car up better then the average shop to get the results desired, and pass the alignment specs etc to the shop/person installing them around the world for the same results.
We all benefit from shops like yours. Not only do you sell the GO FAST PARTS, but YOU, YOURSELF, have tested these parts on your own car, on your own time, at the 1/4 track.....Very cool!
Tony B.
09-11-2009, 11:20 PM
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Most people don't Tony, the stock suspension has so much "give" to it that it would surprise most. That give is simply wasted forward motion, and usually the last thing thought about to the average C5/C6 drag racer.
We are trying to change that thought process, and let people know that there are gains in your car without having to add power.
We are trying to change that thought process, and let people know that there are gains in your car without having to add power.
Now we just have to see if he'll spend the cash to do it!
09-12-2009, 12:49 AM
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Yeah, ECS parts usually aren't for the faint of heart. 
SOOOORRRRRRYYYYYY it had to be done. This door was left wiiiide open. It's been too long since I posted something "nice"
The glide conversion is the chit Saved me a ton of money in the long run. And I see your option is quite a bit less than what it cost me back in the day The 15" wheel was a huge change as well. So many more wheel/tire options. And I didn't even had to mini tub the car. Two very worth-while changes to anyone serious about racing. Nice work......err.......did I say that?.......need more beer......
SOOOORRRRRRYYYYYY it had to be done. This door was left wiiiide open. It's been too long since I posted something "nice"
The glide conversion is the chit
Saved me a ton of money in the long run. And I see your option is quite a bit less than what it cost me back in the day The 15" wheel was a huge change as well. So many more wheel/tire options. And I didn't even had to mini tub the car. Two very worth-while changes to anyone serious about racing. Nice work......err.......did I say that?.......need more beer......
09-12-2009, 10:05 AM
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Le Mans Master
Wow, I need a nap after reading all of that Doug! LOL
You guys have come up with a lot of "neat stuff" over the years. Always thinking out of the box!
Ron
You guys have come up with a lot of "neat stuff" over the years. Always thinking out of the box!
Ron
09-12-2009, 08:19 PM
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Hey, Doug--Just checked this thread and found that Pfadt Drag pack you spoke of the other day. I'm sold--that is my suspension revision that I've been on the fence about. I'll look forward to getting with you between Thanksgiving and Christmas as you suggested, and start ripping that bear apart and sliding something 
underneath. Great job on R&D
underneath. Great job on R&D
09-12-2009, 09:03 PM
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Nice stuff Doug.
Perhaps I missed it, but I did not see a price for the half shaft safety loops?
Perhaps I missed it, but I did not see a price for the half shaft safety loops?
09-14-2009, 06:10 PM
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No good on stock brakes, too tall. You could use a smaller oem brake set up if you wanted to get creative, but I figured this stuff is more for guys with a set focus.
09-14-2009, 09:21 PM
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Sorry, nice catch. They are $229
My Qa1's had to be adjusted to run on the street or the car would bottom out all the time. With the coil overs I just leave them in my race setting and I'm good.
No good on stock brakes, too tall. You could use a smaller oem brake set up if you wanted to get creative, but I figured this stuff is more for guys with a set focus.
My Qa1's had to be adjusted to run on the street or the car would bottom out all the time. With the coil overs I just leave them in my race setting and I'm good.
No good on stock brakes, too tall. You could use a smaller oem brake set up if you wanted to get creative, but I figured this stuff is more for guys with a set focus.
Thanks Doug, I really like the spindles as the 15's give us so many more options on tires.
What about the issue with the Pfadts leaking out back-I think Digivex had a problem with it?
09-15-2009, 09:07 AM
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Caused by a different problem that had nothing to do with the Pfadts.
Never had an issue with Pfadt products, or we wouldn't promote them so much.
09-15-2009, 03:15 PM
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09-16-2009, 12:24 AM
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Please keep me in mind when you have the C6 DS safety loops avail. Also check your PMs about the PG conversion for my car,I have several questions for you.Thanks for all your efforts,I think you need one of us west coast guys to "Beta" test some of these items at high altitude,just to verify results 
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Please keep me in mind when you have the C6 DS safety loops avail. Also check your PMs about the PG conversion for my car,I have several questions for you.Thanks for all your efforts,I think you need one of us west coast guys to "Beta" test some of these items at high altitude,just to verify results
Thanks