C6 Strange Rear Drag Brake Install
#1
Racer
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C6 Strange Rear Drag Brake Install
Wanted to share my install and hopefully this will help someone in the future. This was installed on a 2007 Z06, but I had base C6 calipers & rotors already for my drag setup, along with LG Drag Spindles. Huge thanks to Fartpipe and Stanger383 for their assistance with this.
Here are the parts and part #s I used:
Strange Pro Series II GM Front Brake Kit: B4178WC2
http://www.strangeengineering.net/dr...-pc-rotor.html
Wilwood Flexline Kit: 220-9101
http://www.wilwood.com/LineKits/Line...temno=220-9101
Milled down 1 1/4" i.d. washer: Sourced locally
There was quite a bit of cutting on the spindles and the washer was needed on the axle to clear the wheel speed sensor wires. The parking brake also had to be removed.
Rotor & Parking Brake weight savings: 9.12lbs
Caliper and pads weight savings: 1.71lbs
Total: 10.83lbs
On to the pics....
Stock caliper mounting points cut off and recession cut for Strange caliper bracket.
A washer/spacer is needed because the speed sensor wire is pinched by the axle
Here is the machined 1 1/4" i.d. washer I had cut down on a lathe
Weight of base rear C6 rotor, parking brake and associated bolts
Weight of Strange rotor, caliper bracket & spacer
Weight of base rear c6 caliper and pads
Weight of Strange caliper and pads
Finished product
Here are the parts and part #s I used:
Strange Pro Series II GM Front Brake Kit: B4178WC2
http://www.strangeengineering.net/dr...-pc-rotor.html
Wilwood Flexline Kit: 220-9101
http://www.wilwood.com/LineKits/Line...temno=220-9101
Milled down 1 1/4" i.d. washer: Sourced locally
There was quite a bit of cutting on the spindles and the washer was needed on the axle to clear the wheel speed sensor wires. The parking brake also had to be removed.
Rotor & Parking Brake weight savings: 9.12lbs
Caliper and pads weight savings: 1.71lbs
Total: 10.83lbs
On to the pics....
Stock caliper mounting points cut off and recession cut for Strange caliper bracket.
A washer/spacer is needed because the speed sensor wire is pinched by the axle
Here is the machined 1 1/4" i.d. washer I had cut down on a lathe
Weight of base rear C6 rotor, parking brake and associated bolts
Weight of Strange rotor, caliper bracket & spacer
Weight of base rear c6 caliper and pads
Weight of Strange caliper and pads
Finished product
Last edited by blkscls1z; 02-03-2016 at 11:48 AM. Reason: Corrected Brake Line Part number.
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
For clarification, if you don't run speed sensors, there's no need for the washer, correct?
I'm thinking about making the swap to Strange rear brakes on my car.
For clarification, if you don't run speed sensors, there's no need for the washer, correct?
I'm thinking about making the swap to Strange rear brakes on my car.
#4
Racer
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#6
Doing this swap soon. Gathering the parts now. Do you have a link on the Wilwood flex line kit? For some reason I can not find that number. I would imagine the same is required for the front brakes as well. What thickness is the machined spacer 1 1/4"?
#7
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I didn't have to use the 45 deg. caliper fitting that comes with the line kit. The straight fitting that comes on the Strange Caliper worked fine.
I didn't measure the thickness of the washer, but I can. I do know another person that has done this and they used a 1/2" washer/spacer they fabricated themselves. Mine wasn't that thick, but there is very slight rubbing of the wheel speed sensor wire sheath on the passenger side. Driver's side is fine though.
Last edited by blkscls1z; 02-03-2016 at 12:14 PM.
#8
Do you know if the lines are the same for the front or not. I found the number:
Wilwood Braided Stainless Steel part# 220-8176
I saw you asked in the thread I posted in awhile back to kromberg but he did not reply.
Wilwood Braided Stainless Steel part# 220-8176
I saw you asked in the thread I posted in awhile back to kromberg but he did not reply.
#9
Racer
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http://www.wilwood.com/LineKits/Line...temno=220-9100
Not sure if there is a difference in the chassis fittings from the C5-C6, but I do like the chassis fitting already integrated into the lines of the C5 kits though. .
#10
I ended up ordering the 220-9100 kit for c6 front. I'm doing my front brakes first and rear next. Thanks for the response.
Did you every happen to note the thickness of your 1 1/4" spacer that was machined? On a different note how does it drive with the new brakes? Any issues or complaints?
Did you every happen to note the thickness of your 1 1/4" spacer that was machined? On a different note how does it drive with the new brakes? Any issues or complaints?
Last edited by whitelt3; 02-03-2016 at 01:34 PM.
#11
Former Vendor
C5 and C6 chassis fittings are NOT the same. One is M10 bubble while the other is M10 IF.
Cross fitting these can lead to damaged hardline and may require a nice cut and flare job to correct it...no fun.
FWIW, I stock all four options (F/R, 5/6) hose kits with dedicated swedged ends and bent tube, swivel AN caliper ends for all Wilwood kits. We don't use the factory supplied line kits as I personally hate all those messy fittings....
Cross fitting these can lead to damaged hardline and may require a nice cut and flare job to correct it...no fun.
FWIW, I stock all four options (F/R, 5/6) hose kits with dedicated swedged ends and bent tube, swivel AN caliper ends for all Wilwood kits. We don't use the factory supplied line kits as I personally hate all those messy fittings....
Last edited by Todd TCE; 02-03-2016 at 02:11 PM.
#12
Racer
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I ended up ordering the 220-9100 kit for c6 front. I'm doing my front brakes first and rear next. Thanks for the response.
Did you every happen to note the thickness of your 1 1/4" spacer that was machined? On a different note how does it drive with the new brakes? Any issues or complaints?
Did you every happen to note the thickness of your 1 1/4" spacer that was machined? On a different note how does it drive with the new brakes? Any issues or complaints?
I had the washer machined down to match inner lip of the axle.
Last edited by blkscls1z; 02-03-2016 at 11:40 PM.
#13
Racer
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C5 and C6 chassis fittings are NOT the same. One is M10 bubble while the other is M10 IF.
Cross fitting these can lead to damaged hardline and may require a nice cut and flare job to correct it...no fun.
FWIW, I stock all four options (F/R, 5/6) hose kits with dedicated swedged ends and bent tube, swivel AN caliper ends for all Wilwood kits. We don't use the factory supplied line kits as I personally hate all those messy fittings....
Cross fitting these can lead to damaged hardline and may require a nice cut and flare job to correct it...no fun.
FWIW, I stock all four options (F/R, 5/6) hose kits with dedicated swedged ends and bent tube, swivel AN caliper ends for all Wilwood kits. We don't use the factory supplied line kits as I personally hate all those messy fittings....
Have pics of your line kits and prices? Didn't see them listed on your website.
#14
Drives fine so far with just the rears. Can't really tell much difference in my opinion. I'm leaning towards doing fronts also. Have heard that the stock front calipers will just lock up the skinnies anyway. There is a lot more weight to lose in the front than the rears.
I had the washer machined down to match inner lip of the axle.
I had the washer machined down to match inner lip of the axle.
#15
Former Vendor
TCE hose kits use 45 and 90 degree hoses end rather than npt adapters as found in the Wilwood factory kits. The reason is that it makes them easy to adjust or 'index' where you want them without the potential for damages done to the alum caliper body by way of the pipe thread. Lessening the chance of breaking off that 90 degree adapter or having it too lose and leaking.
Thanks for asking, no hijack intended.
#16
Racer
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I don't list hose kits on the web page as they are included in nearly all brake kit sales anyhow. The C series hoses can be had in any configuration (F/R 5/6) for $55 plus $8 USPS. That includes the hoses, npt adapters for Wilwood calipers and clips. *These are not for oe calipers.
TCE hose kits use 45 and 90 degree hoses end rather than npt adapters as found in the Wilwood factory kits. The reason is that it makes them easy to adjust or 'index' where you want them without the potential for damages done to the alum caliper body by way of the pipe thread. Lessening the chance of breaking off that 90 degree adapter or having it too lose and leaking.
Thanks for asking, no hijack intended.
TCE hose kits use 45 and 90 degree hoses end rather than npt adapters as found in the Wilwood factory kits. The reason is that it makes them easy to adjust or 'index' where you want them without the potential for damages done to the alum caliper body by way of the pipe thread. Lessening the chance of breaking off that 90 degree adapter or having it too lose and leaking.
Thanks for asking, no hijack intended.
Last edited by blkscls1z; 02-04-2016 at 01:54 PM.
#17
Race Director
I've got dual Strange calipers on each rear corner. They work very well. I found it necessary to use a brake proportioning valve to dial in the system with front skinnies and stock calipers.
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