What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake??
06-16-2002, 06:06 PM
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What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake??
I wonder if there is a difference between those 2 intakes:
Edelbrock Torker and Edelbrock TM-1. They look identical....
I assume that they are the same and some knowledgable persons have told me that they are the same but I would really like to know why they had different names if they were identical...
Here are 2 pics - the first is a TM-1 the second is a Torker:
Edelbrock Torker and Edelbrock TM-1. They look identical....
I assume that they are the same and some knowledgable persons have told me that they are the same but I would really like to know why they had different names if they were identical...
Here are 2 pics - the first is a TM-1 the second is a Torker:
06-16-2002, 08:06 PM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (DavidB)
I can see a few casting differences--water passage/thermostat housing, and around the distributor hold down boss. The oil filler tubes also look like they'd point in opposite directions, but maybe I'm just looking at them funny. Functional differences, however... :confused:
I found another pic of a Torker that doesn't show those differences:
There must be some reason for the different name....
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06-18-2002, 12:31 PM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
nobody knows??? Where are all the experts :confused: :confused:
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06-19-2002, 02:19 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
I can't tell you what the difference is. They look like they would have very similar performance characteristics. You know, Edelbrock has a website that you can ask technical questions, and they would be the experts.
I have had very good luck with the Torker series. Granted there are dual planes that have the Torkers beat in the lower rpm's, but the Torker line makes up for it at the top of the "bandwidth".
Some don't like it, some do. They're like anchovies in that respect.
Best thing I can say is try it. A strong engine will see very minimal difference in the midrange rpm's but will definitely see a strong upper rpm performance.
Consider the Torker and Torker II a single plane that'll fit under a stock hood with a performance band at lower than average rpm's compared with other single planes.
I have had very good luck with the Torker series. Granted there are dual planes that have the Torkers beat in the lower rpm's, but the Torker line makes up for it at the top of the "bandwidth".
Some don't like it, some do. They're like anchovies in that respect.
Best thing I can say is try it. A strong engine will see very minimal difference in the midrange rpm's but will definitely see a strong upper rpm performance.
Consider the Torker and Torker II a single plane that'll fit under a stock hood with a performance band at lower than average rpm's compared with other single planes.
06-19-2002, 08:51 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (MoMo)
I can't tell you what the difference is. They look like they would have very similar performance characteristics. You know, Edelbrock has a website that you can ask technical questions, and they would be the experts.
I have had very good luck with the Torker series. Granted there are dual planes that have the Torkers beat in the lower rpm's, but the Torker line makes up for it at the top of the "bandwidth".
Some don't like it, some do. They're like anchovies in that respect.
Best thing I can say is try it. A strong engine will see very minimal difference in the midrange rpm's but will definitely see a strong upper rpm performance.
Consider the Torker and Torker II a single plane that'll fit under a stock hood with a performance band at lower than average rpm's compared with other single planes.
I have had very good luck with the Torker series. Granted there are dual planes that have the Torkers beat in the lower rpm's, but the Torker line makes up for it at the top of the "bandwidth".
Some don't like it, some do. They're like anchovies in that respect.
Best thing I can say is try it. A strong engine will see very minimal difference in the midrange rpm's but will definitely see a strong upper rpm performance.
Consider the Torker and Torker II a single plane that'll fit under a stock hood with a performance band at lower than average rpm's compared with other single planes.
:cheers:
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06-20-2002, 12:10 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
Man, I'm digging way back, but isn't the TM-1 the Tarantuala? If it is, I can give a little insight.
The old Torkers were relatively small runner single planes that ran fantastic. They made great low end and still puled pretty well up top.
The Tarantuala's were slightly larger in the runner size and plenum volume to shift everything a little higher in the rpm range. These things were made when a 350 was a "big" small block. No one was making 383's and screaming 406's and larger.
I've run both and they work great. I'm sure a new RPM Air gap is better, but if this works under your hood, you're ahead!
Jim
The old Torkers were relatively small runner single planes that ran fantastic. They made great low end and still puled pretty well up top.
The Tarantuala's were slightly larger in the runner size and plenum volume to shift everything a little higher in the rpm range. These things were made when a 350 was a "big" small block. No one was making 383's and screaming 406's and larger.
I've run both and they work great. I'm sure a new RPM Air gap is better, but if this works under your hood, you're ahead!
Jim
06-20-2002, 08:46 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (427Hotrod)
Man, I'm digging way back, but isn't the TM-1 the Tarantuala? If it is, I can give a little insight.
The old Torkers were relatively small runner single planes that ran fantastic. They made great low end and still puled pretty well up top.
The Tarantuala's were slightly larger in the runner size and plenum volume to shift everything a little higher in the rpm range. These things were made when a 350 was a "big" small block. No one was making 383's and screaming 406's and larger.
I've run both and they work great. I'm sure a new RPM Air gap is better, but if this works under your hood, you're ahead!
Jim
The old Torkers were relatively small runner single planes that ran fantastic. They made great low end and still puled pretty well up top.
The Tarantuala's were slightly larger in the runner size and plenum volume to shift everything a little higher in the rpm range. These things were made when a 350 was a "big" small block. No one was making 383's and screaming 406's and larger.
I've run both and they work great. I'm sure a new RPM Air gap is better, but if this works under your hood, you're ahead!
Jim
I had my TM-1 ported and matched to the 1205 gasket which should give me additional power... I also use a 1/2 inch spacer for added power... The only reason I didn't go with the Air Gap is that it is after all a dual plane intake... For my application - a single plane intake is a better choice.. I think that a TM-1 is going to pull harder at high RPMs than a Air Gap (because of its single plane design) but I might be wrong...
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06-20-2002, 11:50 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
How much did you have to take off to match the 1205 gasket (ie. what was the original port dimensions? Also, do you have the front and rear heights for this manifold?
06-20-2002, 12:44 PM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (Chris A)
How much did you have to take off to match the 1205 gasket (ie. what was the original port dimensions? Also, do you have the front and rear heights for this manifold?
I don't have the exact measurements of the intake but it's just a little higher than a PERFORMER Intake and a little lower than a PERFORMER RPM...
Hope this helps...
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Olivier
P.S. My current setup is following: TM-1 intake with 1/2 inch spacer and a 1 1/4 inch drop base air filter with a 2 1/4 inch K&N filter element. The hood clearance with this setup is a little more than 1/4 inch.
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06-24-2002, 06:31 PM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
You'll be ahead if you can get it all under the hood. The RPM air gap is a great intake,but if you have to choke it with a short air filter you're dead.
A Tarantula is a relatively small intake as compred to todays offerings and can make a great street piece in a larger small block. Plus the spacer should help some.
Jim
A Tarantula is a relatively small intake as compred to todays offerings and can make a great street piece in a larger small block. Plus the spacer should help some.
Jim
06-25-2002, 03:08 PM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (427Hotrod)
You'll be ahead if you can get it all under the hood. The RPM air gap is a great intake,but if you have to choke it with a short air filter you're dead.
A Tarantula is a relatively small intake as compred to todays offerings and can make a great street piece in a larger small block. Plus the spacer should help some.
Jim
A Tarantula is a relatively small intake as compred to todays offerings and can make a great street piece in a larger small block. Plus the spacer should help some.
Jim
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06-27-2002, 12:53 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
I went ahead and port-matched my Torker II to match the ported intakes on my oval port heads. And I took a LOT of meat out, particularly in the far cylinders.
06-27-2002, 08:50 AM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (GrandSportC3)
I too emailed Edelbrock and got an answer. They told me that TM1 was used in the late 60´s, powerband is 3500-7000 and it was designed as street/strip manifold. That´s all I know about them.
06-27-2002, 06:14 PM
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Re: What is the difference between a original Torker and TM-1 Intake?? (tapio)
I too emailed Edelbrock and got an answer. They told me that TM1 was used in the late 60´s, powerband is 3500-7000 and it was designed as street/strip manifold. That´s all I know about them.
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