Another New Camero Thread
10-30-2007, 12:23 AM
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but from what Scott Settlemire is saying, the new Camaro will not be getting any engine that is in any production vehicle right now. Thats for the V8 version, Im not sure about the V6. Personally Id love to see the Z28 get the LS2 and the SS get the LS3.Let's hope the next Camaro in base trim is a bit more long lasting to keep value up. People buy Corvettes because of perceived value even when old and high miles. Obviously, they do not perceive this with V6 Camaros. The Z28s do ok over 100,000 miles, though.
11-04-2007, 10:11 AM
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11-04-2007, 11:54 AM
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The Challenger might actually be... well a challenger, but the Stang GT... Ford is gonna have to get their crap together in the next few years. It's kind of sad when a new Mustang GT can be out gunned by a 1993 Z28.
11-11-2007, 01:01 AM
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The places I see the Camaro doing well against Mustang are these:
1. In the '60s, the Camaro had every go-fast Chevy part ever made except FI and tripower.
2. Affordability. You had the straight 6 for the base which anyone could afford ($2466 in '67, up to $2621 in '69) to the $18,455 in 2002 for the base coupe. The Z28 convertible was about $10,000 higher than the base coupe. By the late 1990s, Camaros cost too much.
3. Ease of work. The '60s Camaros nearly every kid who ever owned one had worked on it in their backyard or garage. The Fourth Generation was being worked on, but who ever heard of "dropping" an engine instead of pulling one? It was a bit more than most backyard hot rodders could handle.
4. Simplicity. Up until the mid '80s, Camaros were simple and easy, allowing lots of mods to be made. This meant that work was cheap also. By the Fourth Generation, they were anything but simple. Yet Mustangs continued to be modified in home garages.
If Chevy keeps the formula for a fast, simple, clean, lightweight car that anyone can afford, they will beat Mustang. But if they build another Fourth Generation, they will out-perform the Mustang at the track, but lose definitely in the showroom.
1. In the '60s, the Camaro had every go-fast Chevy part ever made except FI and tripower.
2. Affordability. You had the straight 6 for the base which anyone could afford ($2466 in '67, up to $2621 in '69) to the $18,455 in 2002 for the base coupe. The Z28 convertible was about $10,000 higher than the base coupe. By the late 1990s, Camaros cost too much.
3. Ease of work. The '60s Camaros nearly every kid who ever owned one had worked on it in their backyard or garage. The Fourth Generation was being worked on, but who ever heard of "dropping" an engine instead of pulling one? It was a bit more than most backyard hot rodders could handle.
4. Simplicity. Up until the mid '80s, Camaros were simple and easy, allowing lots of mods to be made. This meant that work was cheap also. By the Fourth Generation, they were anything but simple. Yet Mustangs continued to be modified in home garages.
If Chevy keeps the formula for a fast, simple, clean, lightweight car that anyone can afford, they will beat Mustang. But if they build another Fourth Generation, they will out-perform the Mustang at the track, but lose definitely in the showroom.
11-11-2007, 06:03 AM
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3. Ease of work. The '60s Camaros nearly every kid who ever owned one had worked on it in their backyard or garage. The Fourth Generation was being worked on, but who ever heard of "dropping" an engine instead of pulling one? It was a bit more than most backyard hot rodders could handle.
4. Simplicity. Up until the mid '80s, Camaros were simple and easy, allowing lots of mods to be made. This meant that work was cheap also. By the Fourth Generation, they were anything but simple. Yet Mustangs continued to be modified in home garages.
4. Simplicity. Up until the mid '80s, Camaros were simple and easy, allowing lots of mods to be made. This meant that work was cheap also. By the Fourth Generation, they were anything but simple. Yet Mustangs continued to be modified in home garages.
4. I'll give you that the Ford 5.0 was one of the easiest modern engines to work on, but the 4.6? Uh, from personal experience it is WAY more of a PITA. OHC, physical engine dimensions and packaging, and less than stellar electronics come to mind. Compared to the LSx, the aftermarket isn't as robust for the 4.6 engine and it has been out since what, 1993?