Good 1/4 time for a stock 2013 grand sport
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Stock times by forum members.
Showroom Stock LS3 Grand Sport (2010 - 2013)
12.319 @ 115.75 - Grand SportMan - 10 A6 - (5128)
12.374 @ 116.98 - Kuhnrod - 10 A6 - (6945)
12.461 @ 116.04 - SawBladz - 13 M6 - (6916)
12.499 @ 115.35 - Paristndude - 10 M6 - (6898)
12.559 @ 115.41 - Fastenuf - 11 A6 - (5269)
12.805 @ 113.33 - PhillyLS1 - 11 M6 NPP - (5085)
12.319 @ 115.75 - Grand SportMan - 10 A6 - (5128)
12.374 @ 116.98 - Kuhnrod - 10 A6 - (6945)
12.461 @ 116.04 - SawBladz - 13 M6 - (6916)
12.499 @ 115.35 - Paristndude - 10 M6 - (6898)
12.559 @ 115.41 - Fastenuf - 11 A6 - (5269)
12.805 @ 113.33 - PhillyLS1 - 11 M6 NPP - (5085)
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Geography is huuuge. Track, location, DA. Will see numbers all over. AZ is horrible for 1/4 times. MD and NY will be awesome. NM atrocious.
12.3 - 13.0 ish.
Touch to do mid 11’s in AZ with heads/Cam with the stock gearing. Drive to cali and it’s 40hp on the butt dyno.
12.3 - 13.0 ish.
Touch to do mid 11’s in AZ with heads/Cam with the stock gearing. Drive to cali and it’s 40hp on the butt dyno.
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In various magazine tests of the '10-'12 GS, trained professional drivers mostly managed 12.6 or so, with one recording a 12.4.
Now, if you think you are that good, you might get mid-12's. Personally, I think you would do well first time out with a 13.0, and deliriously happy with 12.8. Maybe after 8 or 10 runs, you can go lower, and that would be something to shoot for.
Now, if you think you are that good, you might get mid-12's. Personally, I think you would do well first time out with a 13.0, and deliriously happy with 12.8. Maybe after 8 or 10 runs, you can go lower, and that would be something to shoot for.
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Not according to these guys. http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...2-grand-sport/
They state that the 2012 GS they had in for tests dyno'd--I can hardly type this without laughing--415 HP at the rear wheels. Yet, their stud driver only achieved 12.94 in the quarter, blaming a bad track--I am laughing again. Lastly, they say their "sister publication" has achieved a 12.2. Goody...let's see the vehicle. Super Chevy is Super-known for "Super-prepping" cars before any test.
Super Chevy does not sell magazines to lovers of Ford, Chrysler, or import products. They sell to CHEVY GUYS. So, it has been, and always will be, in their own best interest to make Chevy's look as good as they possibly can, no matter what they have to do or say. Do you recall their archived story titled something like, "Junkyard Dog: The $300 small block that dyno'd 425 HP". Lotta folks believed that story, too, but I never heard of anyone who could duplicate it.
Besides, Boy, the OP did not ask what others had achieved. He asked what HE could expect. I used some known data to give him an idea of what HE could expect. I would still be satisfied with a 13.0 on the first time out, and really stoked with a 12.8.
No harm in having a disagreement, though.
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I hate to break it to you, but if you are reading Super Chevy, and believing it, you are already in fairytale land.
They state that the 2012 GS they had in for tests dyno'd--I can hardly type this without laughing--415 HP at the rear wheels. Yet, their stud driver only achieved 12.94 in the quarter, blaming a bad track--I am laughing again. Lastly, they say their "sister publication" has achieved a 12.2. Goody...let's see the vehicle. Super Chevy is Super-known for "Super-prepping" cars before any test.
Super Chevy does not sell magazines to lovers of Ford, Chrysler, or import products. They sell to CHEVY GUYS. So, it has been, and always will be, in their own best interest to make Chevy's look as good as they possibly can, no matter what they have to do or say. Do you recall their archived story titled something like, "Junkyard Dog: The $300 small block that dyno'd 425 HP". Lotta folks believed that story, too, but I never heard of anyone who could duplicate it.
Besides, Boy, the OP did not ask what others had achieved. He asked what HE could expect. I used some known data to give him an idea of what HE could expect. I would still be satisfied with a 13.0 on the first time out, and really stoked with a 12.8.
No harm in having a disagreement, though.
They state that the 2012 GS they had in for tests dyno'd--I can hardly type this without laughing--415 HP at the rear wheels. Yet, their stud driver only achieved 12.94 in the quarter, blaming a bad track--I am laughing again. Lastly, they say their "sister publication" has achieved a 12.2. Goody...let's see the vehicle. Super Chevy is Super-known for "Super-prepping" cars before any test.
Super Chevy does not sell magazines to lovers of Ford, Chrysler, or import products. They sell to CHEVY GUYS. So, it has been, and always will be, in their own best interest to make Chevy's look as good as they possibly can, no matter what they have to do or say. Do you recall their archived story titled something like, "Junkyard Dog: The $300 small block that dyno'd 425 HP". Lotta folks believed that story, too, but I never heard of anyone who could duplicate it.
Besides, Boy, the OP did not ask what others had achieved. He asked what HE could expect. I used some known data to give him an idea of what HE could expect. I would still be satisfied with a 13.0 on the first time out, and really stoked with a 12.8.
No harm in having a disagreement, though.
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FWIW, in my 13 GS 6MN I ran a 12.9 on the stock GY RFTs, after switching to Continentals my best is a 12.6 @ 117. My 60 ft times are garbage (2.2), as I do not launch the car very hard.
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You might get negative in Phoenix (1147'), but you can't get negative at Tucson (3075') without having ice on the track.
As a rough guide, add the track elevation times 1% for every 100' of elevation and 65' for every 1 degree difference from 59 F. to get the DA. Also, the rough guide for 1/4 mi times are one tenth for every 600-800' of DA.
So a 13.00 time at a 2000' track at 79 F would be equivalent to a 12.48 at sea level.
DA
2000' x 1.2 = 2400'.
79 F - 59 F = 20.
20 x 65' = 1300'.
2400' + 1300' = 3700' DA
ET
3700' / 700' = 5.28
5.28 x .1sec = .528sec
13.00 sec - .528 sec = 12.48sec
Although this calculation doesn't consider BP or humidity, it'll still get you in a ballpark number that'll give you a comparison to previous times and/or other tracks.
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Stock times are all about the DA and driver. IIRC the 12.319 by grandsportman was something around a negative 1500' DA. It'd been a 12.5 in 0 DA.
You might get negative in Phoenix (1147'), but you can't get negative at Tucson (3075') without having ice on the track.
As a rough guide, add the track elevation times 1% for every 100' of elevation and 65' for every 1 degree difference from 59 F. to get the DA. Also, the rough guide for 1/4 mi times are one tenth for every 600-800' of DA.
So a 13.00 time at a 2000' track at 79 F would be equivalent to a 12.48 at sea level.
DA
2000' x 1.2 = 2400'.
79 F - 59 F = 20.
20 x 65' = 1300'.
2400' + 1300' = 3700' DA
ET
3700' / 700' = 5.28
5.28 x .1sec = .528sec
13.00 sec - .528 sec = 12.48sec
Although this calculation doesn't consider BP or humidity, it'll still get you in a ballpark number that'll give you a comparison to previous times and/or other tracks.
You might get negative in Phoenix (1147'), but you can't get negative at Tucson (3075') without having ice on the track.
As a rough guide, add the track elevation times 1% for every 100' of elevation and 65' for every 1 degree difference from 59 F. to get the DA. Also, the rough guide for 1/4 mi times are one tenth for every 600-800' of DA.
So a 13.00 time at a 2000' track at 79 F would be equivalent to a 12.48 at sea level.
DA
2000' x 1.2 = 2400'.
79 F - 59 F = 20.
20 x 65' = 1300'.
2400' + 1300' = 3700' DA
ET
3700' / 700' = 5.28
5.28 x .1sec = .528sec
13.00 sec - .528 sec = 12.48sec
Although this calculation doesn't consider BP or humidity, it'll still get you in a ballpark number that'll give you a comparison to previous times and/or other tracks.
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But whatever, I'm subscribed so do it please Did you do headers, I thought I saw you were doing it ??
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The 700 is the average of the 600-800 DA I mentioned at the end of paragraph 2. The 600 is a number that better suits highly modified NA cars, while 800 is more toward stock ones. You might consider that most Vettes are closer to the middle. This doesn't work the same for power adders, since the power is not as constant or predictable.
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The 700 is the average of the 600-800 DA I mentioned at the end of paragraph 2. The 600 is a number that better suits highly modified NA cars, while 800 is more toward stock ones. You might consider that most Vettes are closer to the middle. This doesn't work the same for power adders, since the power is not as constant or predictable.
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You use DA to adjust how your car would have run if it was done under the standard conditions.