LTC Z06

I have AR rifles which are prohibited under NJ law. I'm going to call the NJ State Police on Monday to get some clarification, but after reading about the guy that got 7 years while transporting locked, non-prohibited guns I'm a little nervous.

carboman

You SHOULD be worried. NJ is tough. Most people just DON'T bring any guns in even if unloaded and locked away. Not worth the risk. Last time I went skeet shooting in NJ I just rented a shotgun there.

JPM

So what you're saying is you dont know the answer

Crusher

What is your question?


More to that story then is being circulated. He moved back into the state with guns he bought legally out of state. However, when he got to NJ he did not take the guns out of the car for sometime after arriving here. It's like transporting guns to the range. You can't put them in your car and go to the range days later or drive for days after leaving the range with the guns in the car.

The guy still got shafted by a now fired judge. (another story of it's own) I'm confident he will win the appeal....

carboman

I've read the rules that the NJ State Police post on their web site and I'm not sure anyone does. The overall gist is, NJ residents that are licensed in NJ are OK all others should leave their firearms home.

LTC Z06

Can I even bring my ARs into NJ? If yes what do I need to do? If no can I store them on post?

Crusher

My some what educated guess would say no. It takes a special firearm license in NJ to own any AR gun. Not just a firearm ID card. So I'm fairly confident that an out of state resident can't bring them into the state and have them in their home even if bought legally somewhere else. As far as on post. I have no idea but would think the military would have some recourse for you. Can't be the first time this has come up.

LTC Z06

This is what I figured. What about pistols, glocks, 1911s?

Ikester

Or a good friend in the NJ government. Im more than 1/2 way finished with The Soprano State.

Crusher

They're semi autos so it would be OK for you to have them in your home as long as they were bought legally. I'm sure the JAG office can answer all your questions and instruct you as to what you would have to do if anything. I'm sure there must be different rules and regulations concerning service personnel that are not permanent residents of the state.

tsts

The application of some laws in N.J. conflict with the Uniform Firearms Act depending on who you are dealing with (individuals). Persons who have conformed with the federal laws in the transportation of their owned firearms have been charged with violations of the N.J. firearm laws or their application of those laws. Often the result is that the person charged, cites his conformance with federal law and the charges are dropped or they are found not guilty. Sometimes those N.J. laws may also be technically correct for their state and different from other states. Be extra cautious with pistols, besides being unloaded and separated properly from the ammo, also have all clips empty while transporting.

Bottom line, N.J. is not the place to to assert your rights, they (police) sometimes do as they please or do what they think is right regardless of your federal rights. Take no chances! Be very private & careful in what you do.

I never carry a firearm into that state, too many small town yahoos. Rarely leave home without one in my own city/state. As advised, consult the local JAG in N.J.

PS - I am a former LEO.

Crusher

H.R. 218...All you need to know is here....
http://www.rpoac.org/RETIRED%20PEACE...ight2Carry.pdf

basicstrategy777

I got the following at NRAstore.com

http://www.gunlaws.com/travel.htm

Should help answering some of your questions.

777

bigdreams65

not sure if you'll be living on post or if it's possible for you to live off post... if off post, move to PA, the laws are much more firearm friendly here and depending on where the base is it shouldn't be to bad of a drive to work... except for the traffic that is..

GL with this... Being from PA I take our gun laws for granted sometimes, I never new NJ was so bad...

JPM

Good read man...hope you didnt cheap out in get the (paperback)

LTC Z06

I'm not a police officer.
I've read the laws, but it is hard to understand how they may apply to me. I'm in a unique position as military member stationed in a state. There are some state laws that do not apply to me, such as having to become a citizen of a state by getting a driver's license after living in the state for usually 6 months.

The other problem is the military does not go into each state and determine which laws should apply or not, and NJ is unique with its restrictions on the 2nd Amendment and citizen self defense.

I'll call JAG on Monday, see what they say.

LTC Z06

Off post, may look at living in PA.

Crusher

I know. That was meant for TSTS as I had quoted him.....

AlfredMay

Living in PA will be a PITA based upon the commute. Plus housing will cost more because you will be in the Philadelphia area.

Many moons ago I was stationed at Dix. There was a range (gun club) for permanent party to use. I do not know if it still is there. If so, get your weapons on post and leave them there.

nj02vette

You are absolutely correct that the laws for NJ residents do not apply to you, since you are a temporary stay service member, even if stationed at a base for years.

Best to contact BOTH the JAG office and the police department in the local township you plan on residing in. The local PD may not give you the most accurate legal info, but at least you can feel them out. Just because you do something "legal" doesn't mean that they can make it easy for you.

I know several people with legal ARs in NJ, but all are federal agents or LEO's, so thier situation is even slightly different. I'll talk to them and see if they can shed any light on the situation.