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Old 12-31-2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul 68
If the Raiders, didn't give the Chargers a opening kickoff for a TD, the Raiders would have won the game. The new coaches came in this year and made us perform like the Defense last year, crappy. Special teams and offense horrible this year. We already knew we had a bad defense. Only thing Allen fixed this year was the penalties.
If the Chargers only played 9 on defense the Raiders might have won.
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Gruden is NEVER going back to the Raiders... there are so many other desirable jobs out there AND the Raiders will NEVER pay him what he wants or give him the GM powers he would want.
Don't forget, Al is gone.
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Don't forget, Al is gone.
That's true... but it's still the Raiders and they have a roster full of dysfunctional players. Why would Gruden want to go back to that when he could have ANY job he wants in the NFL that is available?
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Originally Posted by TPSMak
That's true... but it's still the Raiders and they have a roster full of dysfunctional players. Why would Gruden want to go back to that when he could have ANY job he wants in the NFL that is available?
It's all about $$$. Everyone has a price. I don't know if the Raiders will match it though.
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Originally Posted by TPSMak
That's true... but it's still the Raiders and they have a roster full of dysfunctional players. Why would Gruden want to go back to that when he could have ANY job he wants in the NFL that is available?
I don't think the Raiders are any more dysfunctional than any other NFL roster, I think the entire coaching staff is incompetant. Now I know that's generalizing, and there are always exceptions, but the root of the problem is not the talent on the field, it's the lack of it on the sidelines.
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Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp, Special Teams Coordinator Steve Hoffman, Offensive Line Coach Frank Pollack and Linebackers Coach Johnny Holland. Sound like the Raiders are going back to the power blocking scheme, that why they fired Offensive Line Coach that specialize in the Zone blocking scheme.
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Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp, Special Teams Coordinator Steve Hoffman, Offensive Line Coach Frank Pollack and Linebackers Coach Johnny Holland. Sound like the Raiders are going back to the power blocking scheme, that why they fired Offensive Line Coach that specialize in the Zone blocking scheme.
That's a good start.
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That's a good start.
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Originally Posted by Paul 68
Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp, Special Teams Coordinator Steve Hoffman, Offensive Line Coach Frank Pollack and Linebackers Coach Johnny Holland. Sound like the Raiders are going back to the power blocking scheme, that why they fired Offensive Line Coach that specialize in the Zone blocking scheme.
That's a great start.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
It's all about $$$. Everyone has a price. I don't know if the Raiders will match it though.
There are several problems here.. yes everyone has a price and the Raiders will NEVER pay any great coach good money and if they do it would have to be $10 Million or so... you think I'm kidding? Look what Sean Peyton from the Saints just got.. $8 Million a year for a great coach in a great situation...

For the Raiders, I would go after Bill Cowher, and offer him part of the franchise to have him come in and turn it around. The A's did this with Billy Beane to ensure he would stay... now the A's got a GREAT working partner in Beane...

The Raiders need to do something drastic and creative to turns things around...

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I don't think the Raiders are any more dysfunctional than any other NFL roster, I think the entire coaching staff is incompetant. Now I know that's generalizing, and there are always exceptions, but the root of the problem is not the talent on the field, it's the lack of it on the sidelines.
They are all screwed up year in year out as an orgasnization... that's why they lead every year in penalties AND they keep drafting stupid people like McClain and Russell
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Originally Posted by TPSMak
There are several problems here.. yes everyone has a price and the Raiders will NEVER pay any great coach good money and if they do it would have to be $10 Million or so... you think I'm kidding? Look what Sean Peyton from the Saints just got.. $8 Million a year for a great coach in a great situation...

For the Raiders, I would go after Bill Cowher, and offer him part of the franchise to have him come in and turn it around. The A's did this with Billy Beane to ensure he would stay... now the A's got a GREAT working partner in Beane...

The Raiders need to do something drastic and creative to turns things around...



They are all screwed up year in year out as an orgasnization... that's why they lead every year in penalties AND they keep drafting stupid people like McClain and Russell
Well at least this year, Allen did cut down on the Penalties. The Raiders where 108 / 939 yards. Compare too 163 for 1,358 yards in 2011.
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Originally Posted by Paul 68
Well at least this year, Allen did cut down on the Penalties. The Raiders where 108 / 939 yards. Compare too 163 for 1,358 yards in 2011.
Fewer penalties and fewer wins too.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
Fewer penalties and fewer wins too.
One step at a time.
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Well.. looks like the Raider Nation got what they wanted...


Raiders move quickly to fix offense
December, 31, 2012
Dec 31, 3:18PM ET
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


The Oakland Raiders made a quick statement about their unhappiness over a disappointing first season to the Reggie McKenzie-Dennis Allen era.

But it seems like the two men are safe.

The big move was the firing of offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. Also fired were special-teams coordinator Steve Hoffman, offensive line coach Frank Pollack and linebackers coach Johnny Holland. Allen made the announcement Monday.

"Decisions like this are very difficult," Allen said in a statement. "I have a great deal of respect for all of these men and I appreciate their contributions to the Oakland Raiders this season.”

Knapp’s offense was a major disappointment. Oakland did not take to Knapp’s version of the West Coast offense and the zone-blocking running scheme. Oakland was particularly poor in the red zone.

Running back Darren McFadden had a poor season under Knapp and he was never comfortable in Knapp’s scheme.

Knapp was a curious decision by Allen. He wasn’t his first choice, but he was paid well in Oakland. Knapp was the Raiders’ offensive coordinator in 2007 and ’08 and he was stripped of his duties by Tom Cable in the 2008 season.

Whoever Allen hires, expect the Raiders to try to employ a more power attack that flourished under former coach Hue Jackson. It seems to fit the team’s personnel better than Knapp’s scheme.

I think defensive coordinator Jason Tarver should be safe. If he wasn’t, he probably would have been shown the door quickly like Knapp was.

Tarver’s defense was a sieve for much of the season, but it tightened some in December. The Raiders' biggest issue on defense is talent. I think it has a good coaching base there with Allen and Tarver.
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Happy New Years to everyone. For 2013 let's hope the Raiders can have a winning season for the first time since 2002.
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Happy New Years to everyone. For 2013 let's hope the Raiders can have a winning season for the first time since 2002.
I like the moves they made yesterday and it will be very interesting to see who they hire to fill in the vacancies.
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how bout them chargers?

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Originally Posted by 209TIME!!!
how bout them chargers?
Yeah. Only team the Raiders scored a touchdown against in the last three games.
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Originally Posted by GotCorvette?
Yeah. Only team the Raiders scored a touchdown against in the last three games.
You guys are too funny!
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