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Old 10-31-2012, 06:56 PM
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I still kind of like to watch Pulp Fiction from time to time but one thing has always gotten me. I've never had any experience with anything stronger than pot so I just don't know this stuff. But anyway, in the movie, John Travolta's character buys some drugs, I'm assuming heroine or PCP or some such thing which is taken IV. But Uma Thurman's character finds the drugs and mistakes it for cocaine(?) and snorts it. Then, as we all know, she goes into some kind of seizure and the whole stabbing the heart thing.
But what drug was she taking? And why would snorting it rather than shooting it cause that reaction?
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:03 PM
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I'll wait for others to chime in, but I think that's just the "Hollywood effect".

Like 6 shooters that fire 30 times and cars that blow up into a gazillion parts when a .22 hits them...
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H.
Dosage size is critical.


Smack
Snow
Junk
Tar
Horse
White Horse
Dragon
Dope
H
Big H
Snow
Snowball
Scat
Boy
White Nurse
White Lady
H
Tar
Chiba or Chiva
Junk
Brown Sugar
Junk
Skag
Mud
Dragon
Dope
White, China White, White Nurse, White Lady, White Horse, White Girl, White Boy, White Stuff
Boy, He
Black, Black Tar, Black Pearl, Black Stuff, Black Eagle
Brown, Brown Crystal, Brown Tape, Brown Rhine
Mexican Brown, Mexican Mud, Mexican Horse
Snow, Snowball
Scat, Sack, Skunk
Number 3, Number 4, Number 8

'Crabs

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer View Post
And why would snorting it rather than shooting it cause that reaction?
Closer to the brain.
Many drugs can cause toxic shock.
If one is at a point where they are shooting or snorting drugs they have a serious problem.
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Originally Posted by mdaniel View Post
Closer to the brain.
Many drugs can cause toxic shock.
That makes zero medical sense.

And toxic shock is caused by bacteria. They could get it via a dirty needle but not from the drug itself.
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer View Post
..... character finds the drugs and mistakes it for cocaine(?) and snorts it.
.........
But what drug was she taking? And why would snorting it rather than shooting it cause that reaction?
Please, discuss.
Well, this lady mistakes AJAX for cocaine too:



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Originally Posted by Crabs View Post
H.
Dosage size is critical.


Smack
Snow
Junk
Tar
Horse
White Horse
Dragon
Dope
H
Big H
Snow
Snowball
Scat
Boy
White Nurse
White Lady
H
Tar
Chiba or Chiva
Junk
Brown Sugar
Junk
Skag
Mud
Dragon
Dope
White, China White, White Nurse, White Lady, White Horse, White Girl, White Boy, White Stuff
Boy, He
Black, Black Tar, Black Pearl, Black Stuff, Black Eagle
Brown, Brown Crystal, Brown Tape, Brown Rhine
Mexican Brown, Mexican Mud, Mexican Horse
Snow, Snowball
Scat, Sack, Skunk
Number 3, Number 4, Number 8

'Crabs
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:24 PM
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I think you can ingest just about any narcotic in powder form and have it absorbed through the nasal membrane and mucosa - - depending upon dosage and strength, I suspect that huffing or snorting stuff not configured for that usage could produce a pretty remarkable, intense and short-lived effect before death.

Wait until some of the ER docs or EMT's weigh in - - they've seen it a lot more than I ever did.
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a normal "line" of cocaine equals about 4 hits of heroin.

At least.....that's what I'm told.
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Originally Posted by mdaniel View Post
Closer to the brain.
Many drugs can cause toxic shock.
If one is at a point where they are shooting or snorting drugs they have a serious problem.
I've experimented with...well, you name it. But I pass that off on being young and stupid. Outside of that, my golden rule is 'if it's green, it's clean', and the only way I take anything is smoking or eating it. Heroine is b-a-d news. Knew two people (long time ago) to have OD'd from that stuff, and knew MORE than two people to end up in the gutter from that stuff.
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I believe the movie was supposed to be portraying an adrenaline injection.

Intracardiac injections: injections that are given directly into the heart muscles or ventricles. They are used in emergencies sometimed if drugs cannot be administered intravenously due to individual circumstances. The procedure is performed by insertng a long spinal needleinto the ventricular chamber. The needle is inserted in the fourth intercostal space between the ribs.

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Oh and whether shooting, snorting, smoking or up the keester...any of those routes of administration can cause death. Some are just faster (more rapid onset) than others.
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Originally Posted by SteveOceanside View Post
Well, this lady mistakes AJAX for cocaine too:



That hit me just right... laughing my *** off.
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Originally Posted by DSOMC6 View Post
I believe the movie was supposed to be portraying an adrenaline injection.

Intracardiac injections: injections that are given directly into the heart muscles or ventricles. They are used in emergencies sometimed if drugs cannot be administered intravenously due to individual circumstances. The procedure is performed by insertng a long spinal needleinto the ventricular chamber. The needle is inserted in the fourth intercostal space between the ribs.
That was after the sniff...
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Originally Posted by Kerrmudgeon View Post
a normal "line" of cocaine equals about 4 hits of heroin.

At least.....that's what I'm told.
The effects of cocaine are nowhere near as intense as heroin.
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Originally Posted by hendrix68 View Post
The effects of cocaine are nowhere near as intense as heroin.

And nowhere near the same as one is an upper and the other a downer. Completely opposite effects.
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I think we can write it off to the Hollywood effects. Smoking is the quickest way to deliver substance to brain e.g. first pass, followed by IV administration. Snorting/rubbing/rectal insertion also gets there pretty quickly. Oral route is the slowest
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer View Post
But what drug was she taking? And why would snorting it rather than shooting it cause that reaction?
Please, discuss.
Most likely it was heroin. She thought it was cocaine and did what would be a normal dose, which is about 5x's the amount of an average dose of heroin.

The shot they gave her to revive was mostly likely "Narcan", which is a antagonist that instantly reverses the effect of heroin. I think they called it "adrenaline", but that wouldn't do anything for a heroin OD except keep you awake while you die.

Narcan info: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0047539/
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