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Old 07-25-2013, 08:03 PM
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that train was really moving
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:53 PM
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:59 PM
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I find it hard to believe that a sober engineer could do that. This is a lesson we all learned in childhood with our Lionels.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:04 PM
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that train DID NOT corner as if it were on rails
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:11 PM
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Not making light of a bad situation or anything but when I saw the thread title I was sure it would be a snookie video.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:22 PM
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:04 PM
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One news report stated the high speed rail line was built on the original (previous) road bed. (Designed obviously for much slower traffic.)
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid View Post
Anybody could tell from watching the video that it was going way too fast. I know this isn't one, at least I don't believe it is, but there is no way in hell I'd ever get on a high speed train.
The Spanish train IS a high-speed train.

I've ridden a high-speed train (TGV) from Amsterdam to Paris. Through Holland and Belgium, you are running about 80-ish. When you hit the French border, with the improved and elevated roadbed, they hit the throttles, and it's like being in a dragster. And at 150-160. it's as smooth as silk.

The Spanish engineer was apparently known to brag about speed exploits, I've been told.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HummelS View Post

The Spanish engineer was apparently known to brag about speed exploits, I've been told.
If your hearsay is accurate, that's retarded of the engineer/pilot/driver or whatever you call them in Spain. No need to take a few hundred people on your joy ride.

That's a sad video to watch knowing how many people died and were hurt.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:52 AM
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...but there is no way in hell I'd ever get on a high speed train.
First trip to Japan the GF & I traveled on the Shinkensen Tokyo to Nagoya and it hit >150mph but very smooth...
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:28 AM
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And they're building a high speed rail in Cali. Er, wait, that would be a good thing.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Railroadman View Post
I don't know anything about the Spanish railroad system, but most likely the speed is controlled by the engineer, not by anything automatic. In this country they are working on "PTC" - Positive Train Control - which should help reduce collisions between two trains but even that would not override and prevent such an incident as this one.

The last news reports I saw, the engineer said he was going 120 MPH ((where he should have been going 50) and "hoped nobody was killed". Anybody hear an explanation WHY he was going that fast? Was the train allowed that speed earlier in the trip and had not slowed down soon enough, or was this guy just trying to see how fast it would go?
I was on one of our PTC engines yesterday. It is some amazing technology. The computer takes all the info it has been given then tells you when to give it a notch or put it in dynamic. I can see this turning out bad for the engineers because you know the companies would love to have one man crews.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamesnns View Post
That video looks like our economy and the Obama Admin.
sad but true
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pastorbrad View Post
That doesn't look like a slow section of track. Wouldn't there be a governor in the power unit to restrict speed? RRman help me out here. Scary image indeed.
Pastorbrad, looks like my previous post was wrong, apparently they DO have some sort of automatic speed control. From a news article today:

Investigators opened a probe Thursday into possible failings by the 52-year-old driver and the train's in-built speed-regulation systems.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:43 AM
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I'm anything but an expert when it comes to trains but know a little bit about gravity and that train was going way too fast for the turn. What the hell was that engineer (or whatever they're called over there) thinking? Jeez! Prayers for the victims and their families.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nfshotrod View Post
I was on one of our PTC engines yesterday. It is some amazing technology. The computer takes all the info it has been given then tells you when to give it a notch or put it in dynamic. I can see this turning out bad for the engineers because you know the companies would love to have one man crews.
The capability for 1-man crews has been with us for many years. Any time the conductor is on the ground making a hitch or throwing switches, there has only been one man in the cab. The recent tragedy in Canada will probably result in a ban on one-man crews BUT:

The technology you describe is well on its way to allowing NO man crews. Obviously that would not work for switching but for road trains, the combination of PTC and the computerized systems determining optimum control settings are really only one step away from total automation.

Right now the argument is made for safety - you need someone on the train in case something goes wrong. But IF - and I'm not convicting the Spanish engineer yet - but IF it was his fault, it would not take too many more wrecks like that before the argument starts being made they should take the human element out of it altogether.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:58 AM
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Damn. That train driver is f*cked. Doing almost two and a half times the speed limit! What an idiot!!
Amazing that they don't have a basic GPS coupled speed limiter on these things.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:50 PM
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The driver has been arrested..
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