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Old 10-21-2015, 02:16 PM
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Some residents, along with Warren County, have decided to file a lawsuit against the National Corvette Museum over the amount of noise coming from the new Motorsports Park.

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Old 10-21-2015, 02:48 PM
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Look on Google Earth! There are about 50 homes west of the track about 1/4-1/2 mile away. Why is just becoming an issue for these people. I bet they had there opportunity too voice concerns long before the track was built. Did they think everything on the track would be electric? I wonder how many work at the assembly plant and even maybe the NCM. Go get'em NCM!
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Old 10-21-2015, 03:23 PM
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I wonder why this issue is a problem to be addressed after the track is in place.

They must have known there would be abjections to change, and especially objections to change in property values. Are they just blockheads, or did they think they could overmatch any concerns from the neighborhood , being an economic engine ,of sorts.

Ascot race track, was always within earshot of my home as a child. ALthough it was miles away, we know when they were having a big race, but it was so far away it wasn't objectionable . But, as the area built up, noise became an issue at the location, and as property values increased, that combination was the end.

I miss it.
built by J.C. Agagainian , or however he spells it, it was a fun half mile dirt track, built of granate dust, for a better racing surface . I saw many good races there, but didn't go much. The best visual was turkey night, where the entire grandstand was given American flags to wave as the midgets came down the front straight for the start. IN case you haven't seen a dirt tack car( midget) car n action, at the start of the race, the fuel loads in the back cause the car to lift in the front when you ht the gas. So you have a pack of cars , in rutted dirt, fighting to get ahead, but limited by how the driver feels about the amount of wheels on the ground.

Dirt tracks are the best.
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I would have thought the NCM had handled this situation years ago! unbelievable it is now a problem.
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Noise abatement is always a problem.

People in Tucson bought land and built houses at both ends of the main runway of Davis-Monthan AFB although everyone knew that the Air Force was flying training missions day and night. Then, once these homeowners were sufficiently entrenched they went to court and complained of excessive noise forcing the Air Force to change pilot training.

Now, the jets take off from D-M and fly to either the Goldwater Bombing Range or down to Ft Huachuca for touch-and-goes. The Army saw what was happening in Tucson and made sure that no commercial/residential property was within one mile of the runway. Libby Army Airfield is the busiest Air Force training base that does not belong to the Air Force. . .
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I would have expected all parties would have come to agreements regarding allowable decibel levels, track operating times, and all other concerns prior to any construction.
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Originally Posted by GentleBen View Post
Noise abatement is always a problem.

People in Tucson bought land and built houses at both ends of the main runway of Davis-Monthan AFB although everyone knew that the Air Force was flying training missions day and night. Then, once these homeowners were sufficiently entrenched they went to court and complained of excessive noise forcing the Air Force to change pilot training.

Now, the jets take off from D-M and fly to either the Goldwater Bombing Range or down to Ft Huachuca for touch-and-goes. The Army saw what was happening in Tucson and made sure that no commercial/residential property was within one mile of the runway. Libby Army Airfield is the busiest Air Force training base that does not belong to the Air Force. . .
JUDGES are always a problem.

Every dumb mother-****er who builds or buys a house near an existing farm, race track, airport, whatever and then complains about it needs a swift kick in the ***. Every judge who finds in favor of these drooling idiots needs a firm club to the head. Repeatedly.
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Originally Posted by GentleBen View Post
Noise abatement is always a problem.

People in Tucson bought land and built houses at both ends of the main runway of Davis-Monthan AFB although everyone knew that the Air Force was flying training missions day and night. Then, once these homeowners were sufficiently entrenched they went to court and complained of excessive noise forcing the Air Force to change pilot training.

Now, the jets take off from D-M and fly to either the Goldwater Bombing Range or down to Ft Huachuca for touch-and-goes. The Army saw what was happening in Tucson and made sure that no commercial/residential property was within one mile of the runway. Libby Army Airfield is the busiest Air Force training base that does not belong to the Air Force. . .
Same thing with Luke AFB out on the west side of Phoenix a few years back (90's). And raceway park at Engrishtown NJ. It's frustrating to say the least.
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They should have a dB limit for all cars that run on the track. If your car is too loud, you can't run.

The track I used to go to had clear dB limits posted. I thought I was under the limit, but I was not. I was not allowed to run until I could show them I had taken steps to quiet the muffler. I ran by them for two test laps and passed, and the rest of the weekend was no problem.
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Originally Posted by _Will_ View Post
JUDGES are always a problem.

Every dumb mother-****er who builds or buys a house near an existing farm, race track, airport, whatever and then complains about it needs a swift kick in the ***. Every judge who finds in favor of these drooling idiots needs a firm club to the head. Repeatedly.
Right on....friggin' needlediks.
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Originally Posted by Docbrock View Post
They should have a dB limit for all cars that run on the track. If your car is too loud, you can't run.

The track I used to go to had clear dB limits posted. I thought I was under the limit, but I was not. I was not allowed to run until I could show them I had taken steps to quiet the muffler. I ran by them for two test laps and passed, and the rest of the weekend was no problem.


As I mentioned earlier, I'm really surprised these issues/concerns weren't addressed way before any groundbreaking. Did they just build the track without meetings with the local community?
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Laguna Seca has been a racetrack since 1957. New luxury homes have been built around it since Fort Ord was closed and some of the surplus property was sold off for development.

Those folks built/bought knowing the race track was there, and yet noise restrictions have now been imposed. I believe there are exemptions for pre-existing long standing race events, but club events, driving schools, etc must meet db limits.

Time for a new sink hole under those homes around the corvette Museum race track............?
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:28 PM
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Same thing happened here.

Drag strip has been here since 1968. It was called Bonniville raceway then, not Rocky Mountian Raceway, it has been called RMR for the last 18 years.

When it was built, it was way out on the edge of cilivization, way away from houses ect. Over the years house have gotten closer and closer to the track. Now you can see people's houses from the track they are so close.

Builders build the **** out of spec homes and know no one from Utah is dumb enough to buy houses right next to the track. Out of town people come from another state and have no idea how loud the track is. They may even buy in the off season when no one is racing. They buy the houses cheaper than anything around thinking they got a smoking deal.

Spring time comes around and bamb these people are pissed about the noise, when they are the *******s who moved right next to a race track.

Bunch of NIMBY's!
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dont be a *****
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I thought the NCM was working with the homeowners to rectify the problem. I had heard that berms were being built to help reduce the noise and some other things were in the works to include changing the hours the track would run.

This problem is not with an entire neighborhood; just a small number of people who crating more of a mess than it really is. And I'll bet this lawsuit is being brought by the same small group.
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Take it to the highway. Its only a track, sell it.
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I heard that the residents did voice their concern before the track was built and the NCM told them that steps would be taken so that the noise would not be a problem. I also read where the NCM did not do what they promised, thus the law suit. The housing development was there first, so it's the NCM's responsibility to keep the noise level down so it does not disturb the residents of that development. The residents of the housing development did not move there AFTER the track was built, thus they should not have to suffer because of the noise.

We had something similar happen near Branson, Missouri. Some people wanted to build a NASCAR track and purchased the land and started moving the earth around. Johnny Morris(Bass Pro and Big Cedar Lodge) and the Herschend family(Silver Dollar City) got the project shut down very quickly. They were there first.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5 View Post
I heard that the residents did voice their concern before the track was built and the NCM told them that steps would be taken so that the noise would not be a problem. I also read where the NCM did not do what they promised, thus the law suit. The housing development was there first, so it's the NCM's responsibility to keep the noise level down so it does not disturb the residents of that development. The residents of the housing development did not move there AFTER the track was built, thus they should not have to suffer because of the noise.
NOW this is starting to make more sense.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5 View Post
I heard that the residents did voice their concern before the track was built and the NCM told them that steps would be taken so that the noise would not be a problem. I also read where the NCM did not do what they promised, thus the law suit. The housing development was there first, so it's the NCM's responsibility to keep the noise level down so it does not disturb the residents of that development. The residents of the housing development did not move there AFTER the track was built, thus they should not have to suffer because of the noise.

We had something similar happen near Branson, Missouri. Some people wanted to build a NASCAR track and purchased the land and started moving the earth around. Johnny Morris(Bass Pro and Big Cedar Lodge) and the Herschend family(Silver Dollar City) got the project shut down very quickly. They were there first.
^^^^My money's on this, or something similar.
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I thought the NCM was working with the homeowners to rectify the problem. I had heard that berms were being built to help reduce the noise and some other things were in the works to include changing the hours the track would run.

This problem is not with an entire neighborhood; just a small number of people who crating more of a mess than it really is. And I'll bet this lawsuit is being brought by the same small group.
This is what I heard as well. I also heard the city is fining the museum each day the noise is there, and they don't fulfill their end of the agreement. I think at the end of the day this will all work out. I can see both sides of the argument here, but truly this really is good for Bowling Green. Maybe not so great for the immediate neighbors, so I get it.
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