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Old 02-08-2019, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KarlK View Post
I'm good with the Bullieit Bourbon, it's my garage swill.

Lots of Rye's out there now, I got weened onto them with Templeton several years ago. Pretty mild for Rye IMO.
I've heard good things about Angels Envy Rye, haven't tried it yet.
Catskill Distellery makes a great Rye
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Originally Posted by KarlK View Post
Yup several distilled there. When I first started drinking Templeton, it was still distilled in Iowa, once the Rye became popular they couldn't make enough, they went to IN year back.
Yipee Kai Ai Rye is the best I've had.

I even got a Midwinter Nights Dram which is their exclusive Rye and still prefer Yippee.
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Originally Posted by Capn Hook View Post
Funny you adding buffalo trace to your list when you like sour mash bourbons, when its a wheated bourbon, giving it a slightly more sweet flavor. Its my go to bourbon, neat, especially for the price.
Yeah....it's not my normal taste, and it is much sweeter, but for what it is, and when in the mood, it's very hard to beat. It's my after dinner 'dessert' drink!
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Originally Posted by Sayfoo View Post
Some funny stuff about brands.
Some brands buy base stock and relabel it. At the start of the rye resurgence, many of the brands were from Lawrenceburg, In. The talk at that time was that many of them were just this. I bought some another brand and after reading about the Lawrenceburg deal, I checked it out. Sure enough, same city
Seem to be many more brands now from different makers.
The entire whiskey industry seems to be based on smoke and mirrors. Many (most?) of these small "craft" distillers actually buy their whiskey from 2 or 3 giant distillers like MGP in Lawrenceburg, stick it into one of their own fancy-looking bottles, and sell it to suckers for $100/bottle. The labels on the bottles are chock full of secret code words; if you know the code you can avoid the poser brands, but most people don't.
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Some of it is bullshit and some of it is real. There are certain flavors like wood, vanilla and caramel that I can taste.
OK, I understand why a whiskey might have flavors like wood and peat smoke (DUH) but where do flavors like vanilla and caramel come from? Do the distillers actually mix those ingredients in when they brew up a batch? If not how do those flavors get in there?
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Originally Posted by dvarapala View Post
The entire whiskey industry seems to be based on smoke and mirrors. Many (most?) of these small "craft" distillers actually buy their whiskey from 2 or 3 giant distillers like MGP in Lawrenceburg, stick it into one of their own fancy-looking bottles, and sell it to suckers for $100/bottle. The labels on the bottles are chock full of secret code words; if you know the code you can avoid the poser brands, but most people don't.
They don't bottle it direct. The 'mash' is generic but they still do their own thing to it.
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Which OT baller is going to jump on this? $2K a bottle!

Double Eagle Very Rare 20 Year Old Bourbon Whiskey

https://youtu.be/0Ku6zRrFuqk
inwoukdnin heart beat if you could get it. Secondary market on it will be insane.
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All whiskey is good, some better then others. If you have to drink it over ice or mix with it something then it's not good booze.
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Originally Posted by dvarapala View Post
OK, I understand why a whiskey might have flavors like wood and peat smoke (DUH) but where do flavors like vanilla and caramel come from? Do the distillers actually mix those ingredients in when they brew up a batch? If not how do those flavors get in there?
The wood the barrels are made from adds to the flavor. The whiskey soaks into and out of the wood, drawing flavors that way. The minerals in the soil affect the flavor of the grains and wood. In a Tennessee whiskey, they filter through charcoal made from sugar maple which adds another layer of flavors.
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I remember someone saying to me I need to try Makers Mark.
I bought a bottle expecting wonderful things.
It was the nastiest swill I ever had in my life.

It doesn't mean it's bad I just didn't prefer it.
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Originally Posted by dvarapala View Post
OK, I understand why a whiskey might have flavors like wood and peat smoke (DUH) but where do flavors like vanilla and caramel come from? Do the distillers actually mix those ingredients in when they brew up a batch? If not how do those flavors get in there?
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The wood the barrels are made from adds to the flavor. The whiskey soaks into and out of the wood, drawing flavors that way. The minerals in the soil affect the flavor of the grains and wood. In a Tennessee whiskey, they filter through charcoal made from sugar maple which adds another layer of flavors.
To be a bourbon, it can only be made in new charred oak casks, that have only be used once, and it can have no other added flavors. That is why Jack Daniels is not a bourbon, as it is charcoal filtered which is introducing a flavor. the only thing really determining flavors, are the grains, and time.

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Originally Posted by KarlK View Post
and I'm scared to try their Rye
It's good, I also was meh, but pretty tasty.
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They don't bottle it direct. The 'mash' is generic but they still do their own thing to it.
This.
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I remember someone saying to me I need to try Makers Mark.
I bought a bottle expecting wonderful things.
It was the nastiest swill I ever had in my life.

It doesn't mean it's bad I just didn't prefer it.
That is why so many are available, everyone has a different palate and enjoy different tastes. I cannot do blendeds, but Makers is decent. I do not mix or add ice, three fingers straight up. Bang for the buck Larceny, Rebel Yell Reserve or Woodford Reserve just fits what I prefer. Still searching for Angels Envy....
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I remember someone saying to me I need to try Makers Mark.
I bought a bottle expecting wonderful things.
It was the nastiest swill I ever had in my life.

It doesn't mean it's bad I just didn't prefer it.
Maker's is for mixing. Maker's 46 is for sipping
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Originally Posted by fcdriver417 View Post
Maker's is for mixing. Maker's 46 is for sipping
I am not a Makers fan because they artificially color their Bourbon and I'm allergic to the coloring. My wife likes 46, does not care for Makers but we had a local liquor store commission their own barrel which was a mix of Japanese and Makers, no artificial color and its excellent.




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I used to like Scotch, then, after a New Year's Eve party I switched to Bourbon. I tend to prefer the "smoother" bourbons. Current favorites include Basil Hayden's and Woodford Reserve.
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I am not a Makers fan because they artificially color their Bourbon and I'm allergic to the coloring. My wife likes 46, does not care for Makers but we had a local liquor store commission their own barrel which was a mix of Japanese and Makers, no artificial color and its excellent.



I don't believe there's anything Japanese mixed in the whisky. The custom barrel program allows buyers to choose their own blend of oak staves. The Japanese markings are a bit appropriate considering Maker's is owned by a Japanese brewing and distilling company.
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Originally Posted by Sunset-C6 View Post
All whiskey is good, some better then others. If you have to drink it over ice or mix with it something then it's not good booze.
I agree to a point. Im a neat drinker. But sometimes I just want a soda/bourbon mixed. I like the tastes together. And on hot evenings sometimes I like my bourbon cooler than room temp. Not necessarily because its bad booze though. Granted, there is the swilles of swilles and those need to be mixed just to stomach!
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Saw this at TW&M this afternoon - was tempted as it sounds interesting. Anyone experience it?

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