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Old 03-12-2019, 10:31 AM
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My wife is getting ready to graduate this May. Initially she was excited to graduate Summa *** Laude with her 3.98 GPA. However, the school said she's graduating *** Laude with barely a 3.50 as a result of 2 transfer classes she transferred in from almost 10 years ago. Anyone have any successful experience in convincing a school to bend the rules to allow someone higher honors? She's does practically everything and is pretty bummed about it.
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My wife is getting ready to graduate this May. Initially she was excited to graduate Summa *** Laude with her 3.98 GPA. However, the school said she's graduating *** Laude with barely a 3.50 as a result of 2 transfer classes she transferred in from almost 10 years ago. Anyone have any successful experience in convincing a school to bend the rules to allow someone higher honors? She's does practically everything and is pretty bummed about it.
My experience with transferring credits is they will take the grade that you originally made in that course with no exceptions. If you don't want those grades on your record, then don't transfer the credits and retake the course(s) at your current institution.
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The question is: Beyond the acknowledgement at the graduation ceremony, what value is it to her?
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I had the same thing with my last BA, my old credits from 30 years ago when I attended Samford University in a drunken haze, killed my 3.92 GPA.
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The question is: Beyond the acknowledgement at the graduation ceremony, what value is it to her?
Agree, at this point it's more about work experience, than gpa. Or other things on her resume that make her jump off the page to a recruiter.
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We were allowed to re-take a class and use the better of the two grades for our GPA calculation.

I quit going to Business Statistics after about a week or two because the instructor was horrible, and his accent was so thick I couldn't understand a word the guy was saying. I took the "F" and re-took the class the next semester, and got an "A".
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Agree, at this point it's more about work experience, than gpa. Or other things on her resume that make her jump off the page to a recruiter.
Whenever I say anything like this, I get pig-piled on!

My son is finishing an engineering degree at RPI. Before he started, they had an orientation in July that the parents were expected to attend with the student. I was there when the head of his program went over some statistics of job offers with different levels of work experience and different GPAs. The professor outwardly said that when it comes to getting a job, you are MUCH better off with a 2.8 GPA and 2 solid internships than a 3.7 GPA with no work experience. My son is carrying a 3.9 GPA, and was offered a job by the company where he did his second internship which he will be taking in July. He said they never asked him about his grades, but to get the internship, he had to pass tests that required him to understand the material in his program. He said that most of the stuff on the tests was really basic and easy, only a few hard problems at the end of the last test, of which he suspected he got one of them wrong. When he got the internship, they said outwardly that they had candidates with high GPAs that couldn't pass the tests, so they disregard grades.

My daughter had a 3.8 GPA coming out of Cornell Materials Science Engineering with 2 good summer internships, and worked in a lab at the University for 3 years. She said that she never had anyone in an interview ask her about her GPA, nor did any company ask her for a transcript. All they wanted to hear about was what she did on the internships and in the lab.

YMMV.
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that's SOP. post #2 is spot on. college was over 40 years ago for me. the first 2 years I struggled ( academically, personal, everything), and in my 3rd yr it got so bad that I took "incompletes" and left school. 1 1/2 years later, I went back and did 4.0, but finished with an overall GPA of 2.85. majored in bus adm & mgmnt... looking back, college was a waste of time. I never used it. I never got promoted. it got me in trouble because I was smarter than my bosses. I finally learned to STFU, go with the flow. I am white and watched women and blacks get jobs I should have had. reverse discrimination. in my last 5 yrs, more than one of my bosses told me. "you never say anything. don't you have anything to contribute?" my answers ranged from "you're lucky" "I don't want to get in trouble." "no" " I was here when you got here and I'll be here after you're gone."

it is what it is.
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My wife is getting ready to graduate this May. Initially she was excited to graduate Summa *** Laude with her 3.98 GPA. However, the school said she's graduating *** Laude with barely a 3.50 as a result of 2 transfer classes she transferred in from almost 10 years ago. Anyone have any successful experience in convincing a school to bend the rules to allow someone higher honors? She's does practically everything and is pretty bummed about it.
The same thing happened to me, nothing you can do unless she wants to take those 2 transfer classes again at the new school.
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Whenever I say anything like this, I get pig-piled on!
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I could never go to school there.

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Why agitate over something that will never be thought of except you or in this case your wife. I hired and fired a multitude of professionals in my working years and I never had any idea of their graduation position or their GPA. I did hire and fire a guy with a Masters in English who could not scribe a coherent paragraph.
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I transferred every possible credit I could to SUNY. Got exactly what I wanted....a BS diploma.
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Bend the rules so someone feels better about the grades they earned? Isn't this how we ended up with millennials?
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I got a participation diploma.
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It varies with many Universities. My university needed a 3.6 for honors That's a solid A - none of this 3.5 Round up ****
But I still feel I fell short as I had a 3.74 and needed a 3.80 for .magna . So I got just plain old *** Laude


TBH it doesnt matter to me today like it did 25 years ago. I ended up doing well and I must say that some luck (with hard work to follow) helped along the way.

As I like to say nowadays, better to have a 3.74 and some luck than no Luck and a Magna 3.80

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Why agitate over something that will never be thought of except you or in this case your wife. I hired and fired a multitude of professionals in my working years and I never had any idea of their graduation position or their GPA. I did hire and fire a guy with a Masters in English who could not scribe a coherent paragraph.
^ this

In the grand scheme of life those honors are completely meaningless to anyone except the honoree. Maybe it would help a new college grad land their first entry-level job, but after that nobody gives a ****.
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Schools pass out *** Laude like water these days.
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Whenever I say anything like this, I get pig-piled on!

My son is finishing an engineering degree at RPI. Before he started, they had an orientation in July that the parents were expected to attend with the student. I was there when the head of his program went over some statistics of job offers with different levels of work experience and different GPAs. The professor outwardly said that when it comes to getting a job, you are MUCH better off with a 2.8 GPA and 2 solid internships than a 3.7 GPA with no work experience. My son is carrying a 3.9 GPA, and was offered a job by the company where he did his second internship which he will be taking in July. He said they never asked him about his grades, but to get the internship, he had to pass tests that required him to understand the material in his program. He said that most of the stuff on the tests was really basic and easy, only a few hard problems at the end of the last test, of which he suspected he got one of them wrong. When he got the internship, they said outwardly that they had candidates with high GPAs that couldn't pass the tests, so they disregard grades.

My daughter had a 3.8 GPA coming out of Cornell Materials Science Engineering with 2 good summer internships, and worked in a lab at the University for 3 years. She said that she never had anyone in an interview ask her about her GPA, nor did any company ask her for a transcript. All they wanted to hear about was what she did on the internships and in the lab.

YMMV.
She'll be fine.. She's had internships at Andrews Institute, ESPN, and is currently at NASA. Her resume is fantastic.. I have no reservations about her getting a job when/how/where she wants. Everyone loves her. I guess I felt like it was unfair that she got a D in some random class that has nothing to do with her degree (this is her second degree) and has busted her butt in this degree and still takes transferred stuff into account. They have 2 GPAs they base it off.. total and degree specific.. but if they take the lowest anyways why not just have it be total?

Grand scheme of things it doesn't matter.. I just wanted her to be able to walk Magna *** Laude after all the crap she's been through.
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Schools pass out *** Laude like water these days.
As long as your GPA is above 3.5.
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