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Old 05-16-2019, 01:21 AM
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"Northstar" is the Crown prince of a succession of crap engines, Cadillac has produced, going back decades.

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Old 05-16-2019, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Spaz View Post

Car would be <$5k.
I have two. a 1995 Seville and a 2010 DHS.

Oil: I never change the oil in the 95. Every other tank of gas needs a new quart of oil. The oil is always fresh. No oil leak problem with the 2010.

Head Gasket: Actually the head gasket is not the problem. The problem is that the cylinder head bolts pull out of the cylinder block. A problem with the early North Stars. Aftermarket head bolts are sold that solve the problem. $$$$ to remove the heads and install the new bolts. I've never had this problem with either of my two North Stars.

Gasoline: Both cars are gas hogs for city driving. Gas mileage on the freeway is acceptable. 2000 rpm at 75 mph.

Repairs: Repairs at the Cady dealer are expensive. Both cars are reasonably reliable.

Cadillacs have a comfortable ride. I'm tall and there's room for me.
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:41 AM
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Car Fix guys took a northstar apart, said it was a PIA to fix anything.
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:47 AM
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My uncle owned a Cadillac repair shop in Florida called, "The Caddy Shack", guess what car he never owned.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:59 AM
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Lot of good advice here. Pretty much sums up the car. I had a 00 and an 05. Very nice cars and neither caused me issues. Both were off lease used. Bought them in the teens drove them 3 years and sold them for 8 to 9.

Great road cars.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:03 AM
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Starter is where the cam shaft should be, so no.

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Old 05-16-2019, 07:12 AM
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Get a 3.8 W Body instead
1) it will leak oil
2) it's cheap
3) indestructible
4) good condition ones are 3k
5) better econ
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:14 AM
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:20 AM
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Have you considered an early 2000s Bentley?
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:29 AM
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Have you considered an early 2000s Bentley?
That was my first choice but they're so hard to find
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Spaz View Post
Ok, well, I need another car like I need another hole in the head. But I couldn't help but at least consider it. I drove this car some years ago, it's a 1 owner, and it's clean. I would like a car that I didn't care about putting miles on and could take on trips where I want something comfy. This would fit that bill, but the last thing I need is a maintenance nightmare. Or a nice parts vehicle.

Yea, the starter is under the intake. Brilliant. But, how often do they need messed with?

It ain't sound'n good. Also sounds like it's priced a bit high... If I could get it down around $2k, I'd probably jump on it because at that point it's disposable. Not sure if I can punch em in the gut in this case though. Anyone else, I'd hold a gun to em and steal it, but...
K-Spaz, If you can't get the price down to where you like it, let Slo-Yellow know about it. I hear he likes low priced luxo barge type car.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:43 AM
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Hey guys, how about hummers? H1? They seem like they could be a real practical vehicle too. And fuel efficient too I bet. They're fairly cheap to buy.



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Hey guys, how about hummers? H1? They seem like they could be a real practical vehicle too. And fuel efficient too I bet. They're fairly cheap to buy.




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Old 05-16-2019, 10:36 AM
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My MIL had a Buick w/ a NorthStar V8 for > 10 years. It was a pretty good engine (just minor issues a couple of times), and she still would be driving it if someone hadn't run a stop sign earlier this year and totaled it.

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Old 05-16-2019, 04:14 PM
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My dad had an '97 Olds Aurora. Bought it new, drove it 90,ooo ish miles over 5 years, no issues. Ate tires though, but that a direct relation to the right pedal.

No idea about longevity of it, it was stolen out of a parking lot at a Bills game and was never seen again.
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:52 PM
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Get an old RAM instead

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Originally Posted by Rodnok1 View Post
Depends on the year, post 2000 HG issues went down and 05 were redesigned eliminated most of thd issues. 99 statistical is worst year for HG issues.

There's a phrase we use... They're cheap to buy and expensive to maintain.
One big clue to a listing that has HG problems is, new water pump, radiator amd thermostat just installed and suddenly they are selling it...

Oil leaks are a larger PITA(half case reseals are expensive) along with P0741 lockup converter issue (throws SES and won't pass inspection if you have to get one) very expensive to have fixed although the part is cheap.

Suspension parts if you want to keep original electronic struts are expensive and some basically cannot be obtained now.

Before purchasing need to check the codes via onboard diagnostic system, it'll tell you any issues.

Don't know what year you're looking at my I paid less than that for my 97 Deville with 32k on it and that was 4 years ago.

The "oil drinking" issue really isn't an issue. Frankly they drink 1 qt between changes, if you fill to top of hash marks it'll eat it until half way in hash marks. They issued a TSB on it many years ago.
I've put 150k on N* engines the last 4 or 5 years and they use one quart every cycle.
About sums it up.

Originally Posted by Patsgarage View Post
I worked for a Cadillac dealer when the Northstar was introduced. I saw both sides of them, we had some that went 100, even 200k with just routine maintenance, others that took a dirt nap with fairly low miles...
Yep I flipped a few Northstars and found that once they got past 60-80k they seemed bulletproof, seen them at the auctions with 200k+ and no issues.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:17 PM
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I had a beautiful 00 that I bought from a dealer with a bad HG. It had about 90k on it. black/black and loaded. Such a nice car.I could drive it about 25- 30 mins until it would start getting close to the red. You would have to pull over, shut off, and wait for 1-2 mins and ya had another 10 mins.
Worked great as my work was only 10-15 mins away. Only long trip would be to my Dads which was about 35-40 mins maybe once a month tops
I drove it like that for about a yr.
At the time I had another one I had on CL with a very bad HG(10 mins tops). A guy calls me up and tells me he can fix the car for me for 500. Guaranteed FOVERVER!!!! I told him car was beat but I had a black one I may be interested in fixing.
Guy told me he had a hand in designing some part of the NS and it the problem with the car is it builds pressure. I talked to him for about an hr and agreed to let him fix it. Said it was guaranteed forever and don't pay him until after I was happy with it. What did I have to lose.....
I meet him at my pizzeria. He was probably about 80yrs old and seemed super nice. Drove up in a white sts. anyways I give him the keys and go back inside. No more than 10 mins later he comes in and says "all done".....
I was like no way and he said let's go take it for a ride. What a ride.... I was driving it normally and he told me to beat it, it's good as new!!
As God as my witness I took it up to triple digits, smoked the tires, and just drive it hard for about 20 mins. Needle never moved!!!!!!
Get back to shop, he topped off coolant and said you're all set and save my number and if it happened again to let him know and he would come fix it but that I would never have to!
I drove the car for close to another 6 mos and was perfect and sold for almost 3X what I paid for it.
Basically all he did was splice in a like 6' radiator hose and added some sealant he said he developed.
Think he did it from the water pump to the opposite side radiator hose.
Said the NS was by far one of the best engines ever produced and if you fix the pressure of it, it will literally last forever!
Also said he would travel around the country buying and fixing them for people.
Also had some other cool stories about experiment engines,electric devices, and carbs from the 70s but this is long enough. I wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't happened to me.
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