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Old 05-15-2019, 10:20 PM
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Ok, I have an opportunity to purchase at a deep discount, a very nice Seville STS. 80k miles, would be cheap. Mint condition other than it is a NS V8. Runs perfectly, no issues.

I've never been around Northstars so I know squat about em. From what I read and see, it might not be the best choice.

What's the all-knowing think?

Car would be <$5k.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:25 PM
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Something will be outta round for sure.
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I had an '00, loved it....watch for head gasket issues.
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Had a 1996 STS... it literally DRANK oil... im talking a quart every 1k miles...

it was a damn comfortable car and drove fantastic IMO but it burned a lot of oil and when i bought it the engine had 60k on it. I think the pre 1994's had oil pressure problems and it was the pre 2000 models that had ring issues that just ate oil like mad. Not sure after that... hell i don't know when they even stopped making the northstar.
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Originally Posted by themonk View Post
I had an '00, loved it....watch for head gasket issues.
This is what I"m hearing is they're prone to that and then once the shtf, it's a throwaway car because of parts unavailability.

Originally Posted by The JOe View Post
Had a 1996 STS... it literally DRANK oil... im talking a quart every 1k miles...

it was a damn comfortable car and drove fantastic IMO but it burned a lot of oil and when i bought it the engine had 60k on it. I think the pre 1994's had oil pressure problems and it was the pre 2000 models that had ring issues that just ate oil like mad. Not sure after that... hell i don't know when they even stopped making the northstar.
Wonderful... more of the same.

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Yes, very similar, even close on the color but not quite.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:37 PM
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I'm not positive of the year but I believe late 90s...
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Lower crankcase seal leaks will be thousands to fix, and they pretty much all start leaking before one hundred k miles.
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Depends on the year, post 2000 HG issues went down and 05 were redesigned eliminated most of thd issues. 99 statistical is worst year for HG issues.

There's a phrase we use... They're cheap to buy and expensive to maintain.
One big clue to a listing that has HG problems is, new water pump, radiator amd thermostat just installed and suddenly they are selling it...

Oil leaks are a larger PITA(half case reseals are expensive) along with P0741 lockup converter issue (throws SES and won't pass inspection if you have to get one) very expensive to have fixed although the part is cheap.

Suspension parts if you want to keep original electronic struts are expensive and some basically cannot be obtained now.

Before purchasing need to check the codes via onboard diagnostic system, it'll tell you any issues.

Don't know what year you're looking at my I paid less than that for my 97 Deville with 32k on it and that was 4 years ago.

The "oil drinking" issue really isn't an issue. Frankly they drink 1 qt between changes, if you fill to top of hash marks it'll eat it until half way in hash marks. They issued a TSB on it many years ago.
I've put 150k on N* engines the last 4 or 5 years and they use one quart every cycle.

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I had a 2001 Eldorado that loved oil... Isn't the starter in an unusual place, like under the intake manifold?
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With those responses I say go for it. What could possibly go wrong.
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I worked for a Cadillac dealer when the Northstar was introduced. I saw both sides of them, we had some that went 100, even 200k with just routine maintenance, others that took a dirt nap with fairly low miles. Starters suck (it is in the valley), and you do not want to overheat one. Parts availability could also be an issue, especially for some of the electronics.
The STS was my favorite car that we sold at that time, quick, comfortable and good looking. I have been halfway looking for one for years, but I have either been too late (sold) or they have been roached out. If it is cheap enough and you are OK with the chance that it might be one repair away from the boneyard I would go for it.
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There are only two kinds of Northstars. Those that have blown head gaskets, and those that will.

There is a fix for them that should have been the way they left the factory. If the correct fix is done, it will be almost indestructible.
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Ok, well, I need another car like I need another hole in the head. But I couldn't help but at least consider it. I drove this car some years ago, it's a 1 owner, and it's clean. I would like a car that I didn't care about putting miles on and could take on trips where I want something comfy. This would fit that bill, but the last thing I need is a maintenance nightmare. Or a nice parts vehicle.

Yea, the starter is under the intake. Brilliant. But, how often do they need messed with?

It ain't sound'n good. Also sounds like it's priced a bit high... If I could get it down around $2k, I'd probably jump on it because at that point it's disposable. Not sure if I can punch em in the gut in this case though. Anyone else, I'd hold a gun to em and steal it, but...

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Originally Posted by K-Spaz View Post
Ok, well, I need another car like I need another hole in the head. But I couldn't help but at least consider it. I drove this car some years ago, it's a 1 owner, and it's clean. I would like a car that I didn't care about putting miles on and could take on trips where I want something comfy. This would fit that bill, but the last thing I need is a maintenance nightmare. Or a nice parts vehicle.

Yea, the starter is under the intake. Brilliant. But, how often do they need messed with?

It ain't sound'n good. Also sounds like it's priced a bit high... If I could get it down around $2k, I'd probably jump on it because at that point it's disposable. Not sure if I can punch em in the guy in this case though. Anyone else, I'd hold a gun to em and steal it, but...
Why is this car starting to sound like something I should buy ?
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Why is this car starting to sound like something I should buy ?
Not you too...
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Originally Posted by K-Spaz View Post
Not you too...
I think we are brothers from different mothers. Then again, I am adopted and supposedly do have an older brother out there somewhere............
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Originally Posted by Patsgarage View Post
I think we are brothers from different mothers. Then again, I am adopted and supposedly do have an older brother out there somewhere............
I was switched at birth. My real parents are still out there trying to find me, and I know they're rich.
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i might know where a 2007-08 Cad DTS is for about 2k. 90,000 miles. Oh, tail lite broken, probably $1500.....they bought a new car
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Something will be outta round for sure.
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