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Old 05-18-2019, 01:05 AM
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An Atlas Air B767, flying as Amazon Prime Flight 3591, was flying level at 6000 feet soon to descend on a landing approach to Houston. Suddenly the first officer's TOGA switch activated (TOGA is take off go around), causing a slight pitch up motion......normal as engines go to take off power. Immediately afterward, the first officer (right seat) pushed the yoke down...i.e. commanded a large elevator down motion. Flight 3591 pitched down 49 degrees and speed went from 230 to 430 knots. Next the captain (left seat) forcefully pulled his yoke trying to command elevator up...the captain pulled back so forcefully that a shear pin snapped allowing the captain's yoke to no longer be mechanically connected to the first officer's yoke. The shear pin snaps when the pressure on one yoke is 50 pounds greater than on the other yoke. At this point in time the captain's yoke up position commanded the right side elevator to a pitch up (nose up) position while presumably the first officer's yoke down was commanding the left elevator down (nose down). The aircraft was at too low of an altitude and going to fast to recover. Flight 3591 hit the ground (Trinity Bay) at a 20 degree nose down attitude. The upspoken thought is that the first officer commanded full thrust and full nose down to purposefully cause the crash. The National Transportation Safety Board has not issued an official report. Someone has leaked this data. When discussing the shear pin, the commentator mentioned a Egypt 767 crash into the ocean which the NTSB report identified as due to suicide.

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The NTSB HAS issued a preliminary report: NTSB Report
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That report is not very descriptive about what went on in the cockpit.

Could the 2nd officer have slumped over on the yoke and the 1st officer was trying to recover the flight? Maybe the cockpit voice recorder will give those details.
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When did this happen?
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When did this happen?
Late February, this year.

Also, relative to the flight crew, there wa a stranger on board. The third seat was occupied by a "hitchhiker." A pilot from another airline who was getting a ride either to home or a new assignment.

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It's hard to believe that has become of Boeing.
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A few years earlier, a non-revenue passenger.....a Fed EX 2nd officer......attempted to crash the airplane he was hitching a ride in so that his family could collect life insurance. Really horrible on board battle with the.flight crew. Notice this passenger continually kept switching the cockpit voice recorder off before takeoff.


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Originally Posted by 68/70Vette View Post
A few years earlier, a non-revenue passenger.....a Fed EX 2nd officer......attempted to crash the airplane he was hitching a ride in so that his family could collect life insurance. Really horrible on board battle with the.flight crew. Notice this passenger continually kept switch the cockpit voice recorder off before takeoff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_akKKf2o3I
I watched the full show on this one, f-ing crazy.
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