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Old 07-11-2019, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete2k_Z28 View Post
If itís a traditional torque converter / hydraulic / planetary type automatic, any gear will be neutral if the engine is not running because it depends on hydraulic pressure from the front pump to apply clutches.
However, getting an electronically shifted automatic trans into any gear requires the car to (typically) be running.
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Old 07-11-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Axelrod View Post
Yeap, electronic shifted transmissions. Though, in either case, there needs to be a way to manually (or electrically) override the trans to go into neutral.
You're right about the electronic transmissions being more complicated - I just found this as the "no power, shift to neutral" procedure for my F-Type:


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Old 07-11-2019, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MidLifeinMI View Post
You're right about the electronic transmissions being more complicated - I just found this as the "no power, shift to neutral" procedure for my F-Type:
Thanks for sharing. Most new/modern cars with electronically shifted transmissions have some sort of in-cabin override release for towing.

No idea how Alfa Romeo got the Giulia into the USA without the override capability.
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Originally Posted by Axelrod View Post
Car dies on the road and cannot be moved/pushed to the side.
If the car is in Drive and the engine is not running, it's the same thing as being in neutral.

So, if the car dies while driving, just push it to the side of the road.
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Originally Posted by Pete2k_Z28 View Post
If itís a traditional torque converter / hydraulic / planetary type automatic, any gear will be neutral if the engine is not running because it depends on hydraulic pressure from the front pump to apply clutches.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DanSavage View Post
If the car is in Drive and the engine is not running, it's the same thing as being in neutral.

So, if the car dies while driving, just push it to the side of the road.
The car dies and the current ZF8 speed transmissions default to "park". There is no amount of pushing that will move the car.
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Originally Posted by Axelrod View Post
There is no amount of pushing that will move the car.
Oh yes there is.
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Originally Posted by Carguy2112 View Post
On my '18 Optima, push the start button without your foot on the brake to put it in accessory mode, the shifter unlocks. If the car has lost battery power, there is a manual unlock on the console.
Same with my 2015 Challenger, except the manual unlock is directly behind the start push button
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Originally Posted by Axelrod View Post
The car dies and the current ZF8 speed transmissions default to "park". There is no amount of pushing that will move the car.
So, you're cruising down the road at 75mph and the engine dies.

Does the trans go into park at that speed?
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Originally Posted by DanSavage View Post
So, you're cruising down the road at 75mph and the engine dies.

Does the trans go into park at that speed?
It makes for a wild ride.
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It makes for a wild ride.
Yes, it does. The Italian cars coast into neutral when the motor shuts off. Once the car stops, any attempt to restart puts the trans in default (park).
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