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Old 10-16-2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
Nothings official, but people are speculating around that. Either way if it is faster around a track then the 997 Turbo and Z06 who cares?
No official times yet, so yes it does matter. Power to wt ratio makes it a bit on the slow side. More like comparable with stock 997s and C6s

Besides, until the car is raced internationally in the ALMS, LMS or FIA GT, its only a wannabe drifter rice car

SuperGT does not count, that is like NASCAR but only in Japan
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Sorry, but no way in hell does a mid to high 11 sec. car get in the 9's with "very little work done".
Apparrently you don't have a lot of expierience with boosted cars. 300ZX TTs run high 13s stock, with basic bolt ons and boost they are 11 second cars. Same with Supras and previous GTRs. This car will likely see 150HP gains with basic modifications, that + good driving and grippy tires should easily put it in the low 10s and possibly 9's. There are 10 second Supra/300ZXs still on STOCK turbos.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
No official times yet, so yes it does matter. Power to wt ratio makes it a bit on the slow side. More like comparable with stock 997s and C6s

Besides, until the car is raced internationally in the ALMS, LMS or FIA GT, its only a wannabe drifter rice car

SuperGT does not count, that is like NASCAR but only in Japan
Holiday Auto comfirmed the GTR ran a 7:38 around the Nurburgring 2 days ago. That puts it faster then the Z06 and 997 Turbo around the track.
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I wonder what the folks in Other Cars think of it.
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
Holiday Auto comfirmed the GTR ran a 7:38 around the Nurburgring 2 days ago. That puts it faster then the Z06 and 997 Turbo around the track.
Like to show the time?

No like, no public time, no comparison.

and was it segment times, like most manufactures do, or full lap times as corvette did?
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Originally Posted by Guitarstar
Can I get fried "rice" with that?
That is an unfair comment. Just because it is Japanese in origin does not make it a rice mobile. That is reserved for a rear wing on a front wheel drive car. I really do not understand the antipathy towards Japanese cars. If it came from Italy or Germany the comments would not be as stereotyped. This is just jingoistic garbage. Yes the vette is great I own one it does not make me blind to other choices. Show some intelligent criticism but please you are not funny in the least with that comment.
I do not like the look myself. I agree that the older skylines were never about looks either. The potential for extra hp is unknown but certainly the former skylines were easy to mod as were the 2jz of the supras. It was easy to gain over a hundred hp in the supra by a low restiction exhaust and cats and by upping the boost.( 1500 $) Add a better intercooler and a fuel map and a larger single turbo and a 1000 hp on stock internal were yours. Time will tell if this car is as capable and it can use the extra power. The competition is a good thing ( especialy with the news of the viper being canceled) and bodes well for the future of all cars as well as the corvettes
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I don't believe those times for a second. I actually like nissans alot and I hope it does turn out to be a good car but for a car with that much weight and under 480hp stock their is no way in hell it does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and 11.7 1/4 miles times. AWD or not I will believe it when I see it.
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
Apparrently you don't have a lot of expierience with boosted cars. 300ZX TTs run high 13s stock, with basic bolt ons and boost they are 11 second cars. Same with Supras and previous GTRs. This car will likely see 150HP gains with basic modifications, that + good driving and grippy tires should easily put it in the low 10s and possibly 9's. There are 10 second Supra/300ZXs still on STOCK turbos.
I agree that it is easy and cheap to get higher output of designed turbo engine but I don't think to many 10 second supras had stock turbos
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I don't believe those times for a second. I actually like nissans alot and I hope it does turn out to be a good car but for a car with that much weight and under 480hp stock their is no way in hell it does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and 11.7 1/4 miles times. AWD or not I will believe it when I see it.
They wills sell in a few trim variations it is probably the 550 hp light weight version
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Like to show the time?

No like, no public time, no comparison.

and was it segment times, like most manufactures do, or full lap times as corvette did?
Full lap time. Was done 2 weeks ago. Heres the article from this months Holiday Auto in Japan:


Someone translated it on the forums for us, the car ran a 7:38 with Walter Röhrl, the same driver that pulled a 7:40 in the 997 Turbo.
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Originally Posted by thegame
I don't believe those times for a second. I actually like nissans alot and I hope it does turn out to be a good car but for a car with that much weight and under 480hp stock their is no way in hell it does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and 11.7 1/4 miles times. AWD or not I will believe it when I see it.
Neither the weight or power is known yet. It could make 550HP for all we know....7 days till the official specs are released.
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Originally Posted by dashotgun
I agree that it is easy and cheap to get higher output of designed turbo engine but I don't think to many 10 second supras had stock turbos
There are a few Supras and 300ZXs running stock turbos at 10 second 1/4s trapping 125+MPH.
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Originally Posted by dashotgun
They wills sell in a few trim variations it is probably the 550 hp light weight version
The latest Japanese magazines are now saying there will only be one version of the GTR. The other variations were just rumors.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dashotgun
They wills sell in a few trim variations it is probably the 550 hp light weight version
True that could be it. I mean realistically we are all car guys and we should be able to appreciate competition and other badass cars. Who cares if its faster ??? * Runs and calls Lingenfelter*
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I'm not impressed!
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
GTRs have always been boxy cars with sharp lines. This one follows its heritage well. These cars were never about pleasing body lines but rather raw performance/technology at a bargain price.
Then they should go back to the CAD computer, and rethink the concept....Raw performance/technology and pleasing lines have been fundamental design concepts since the inception of the automobile.
They should at least make an ATEMPT to make it decent looking...
Which it is clearly NOT.
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Originally Posted by eagles6998
I'm not impressed!
Why not?? It's actually quite impressive!! Don't be a hater
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:09 PM
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Why can't Nismo simply add the engine enhancements to the current 350Z, at least that car doesn't look like it was beat to death with an ugly stick.
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Originally Posted by Gibson_L5
Then they should go back to the CAD computer, and rethink the concept....Raw performance/technology and pleasing lines have been fundamental design concepts since the inception of the automobile.
They should at least make an ATEMPT to make it decent looking...
Which it is clearly NOT.
I think it may be a big hit in the home market and in part may have been directed there. The skyline was a more popular car then the supra in Japan . Different styling idiom I suppose. I agree it is not a pretty car in the western idiom.

As far as 10 second supra on stock turbos I am skeptical. I used to own one and was and am a poster on supraforums. The best bpu car times I had seen verified by time slips was high 11's. Hi hp supras were not uncommon as well as high trap speeds but the car especially in it higher hp mods did better from a roll as it had problems getting the power to the ground.
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I say it'll kill just about anything stock for stock in the 1/8th if the output stated is correct. If it's AWD, I don't car how powerful it is, it's gonna die mid track in the 1/4. I've seen a 600HP WRX Sti and a 500 HP GCJeep SRT8, both with more HP than this car states, both AWD, both similar in weight to that proposed for this car. Neither were in the 11's deep, even with racing tires. The WRX would've been closest to what they are saying, as it was an 11.8 car, the Jeep, being heavier was a 11.9 -12.0 flat car. I'll be very surpised if after all is said and done, there is a $80K car that runs low 11's @3500+lbs from Nissan. More like a $100K that may hit 11.7-11.9's and is 3800-4000lbs, which will totally **** off those GT500 owners, and I'm fine with that.
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