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Old 02-29-2008, 02:48 PM
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Okay guys-

Tough question-

Why would you want a c5Z over one of these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dsPe...eature=related

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The only thing I can come up with is resale but the z doesn't have the emergency backseat for babies.
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Ugly as sin
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:46 PM
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There is no reason to go for a bastadized 944 with an LS1 when you can have a C5 Z06...
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:02 PM
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They claim that it made "approximately" 400 hp and 400 tq but didn't show any numbers......
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Question answered below.

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Couple reasons I can think of. Primarily the C5Z is a much prettier car. Also the C5Z will be easier and cheaper to maintian. Porsche parts are VERY expensive and there are some parts required for the engine swap that could be very difficult to find at any price. The perception many people have is that the Porsche LS1 hybrid would be lighter than the C5Z. Not sure on this, but I would bet a beer on the Porsche LS1 hybrid actually weighing a little more than a C5Z.
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was never an attractive car. never had the looks
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:02 AM
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They molested that poor 944.
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Originally Posted by jclarksnakes
Couple reasons I can think of. Primarily the C5Z is a much prettier car. Also the C5Z will be easier and cheaper to maintian. Porsche parts are VERY expensive and there are some parts required for the engine swap that could be very difficult to find at any price. The perception many people have is that the Porsche LS1 hybrid would be lighter than the C5Z. Not sure on this, but I would bet a beer on the Porsche LS1 hybrid actually weighing a little more than a C5Z.
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Well, the 85 turbo 944 only tipped the scales at 2600. The LS1 is actually lighter than 4 cyl turbo engine. So, there is a good chance that the hybrid will be lighter.
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In a 928 maybe. 944 nope.
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Originally Posted by triblk6spd
In a 928 maybe. 944 nope.
Never did like those 944s
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Depends on if you live in a house or a double-wide.

C5z - looks good next to a real house in a real garage
ghey 944 - looks good next to a double-wide under an awning

your choice though
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the transaxle situation sounds like a headache whether you fit the corvette unit or somehow get the porsche to hold up. It would seem so much more do-able with conventional transmission up front and a ford 9" in back, but that might not even fit (?) and would destroy the character of the car (I've seen a butchered solid axle swap into a C-3, made the thing look like it was set up for mud bogging, even though the fabricating skills were pretty good).

Great engine swap intentions often get stuck in the execution stage. Swapping transaxles could seem like a whole 'nother swap job, adding to the risk of never getting done.
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I've always liked the looks of the 944. They are total crap stock and a money *****. But they are lighter than a ZO6, and with an LS3 in it make identical HP. I have a fully built LT4 in mine (Cali smog is easier on OBD1 engines) and have raced C5 old gen ZO6's and unless they had s/c or NOS they were unhappy. Still the back seat really isn't for humans, my 7 year old fits but maybe once he's 12 he won't also baby seats will NOT fit. I still want a Vette but it's gonna be a C6 Z51 w/forced induction of some sort. Good luck with whatever you do.

944 turbo transaxle will hold up to most abuse, however 450-500#' is about it's limit. The good news is you'll scatter the axles before any major damage is done to the tranny.

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Event Results
Auto Club Speedway - Full Course "ROVAL" (5/16/2009)

Timing Name LapTime Speed Make Model Year Tires HP
TonyG 1:50.311 91.380 Porsche 944 Turbo 1986 Race 450
Ted Park 1:52.951 89.240 Nissan Skyline GT-R R35 2009 Street 480
jrocket 1:53.988 88.430 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2003 Street 405
Hod Cooper 43 1:54.602 87.960 BMW M3 2009 Street 0
ash 1:54.738 87.850 BMW M6 2008 Street 500
rtracing 1:55.018 87.520 0
Cory Muscat 1:55.160 87.530 0
OGH 1:56.225 86.730 BMW M3 LTW 1995 Race 340
Alex Lin 2 1:57.969 85.450 0
Vern buwalda 1:58.054 85.030 BMW M3 1998 Street 0
jard 2:02.139 82.530 0
sal martino 2:02.846 82.050 Ford Mustang GT 2006 Street 300
Hellride 2:02.976 81.970 BMW M3 2008 Race 414
atom 2:07.370 79.140 Mazda RX-8 2005 Street 238
Carter 510 2:07.814 78.860 0
Banhammer 2:08.494 78.450 Pontiac GTO 2004 Race 350

Also if you go to www.speedventures.com and select event results select Auto Club Speedway - Full Course "ROVAL" (5/16/2009) and look at the plastering a ZO6 recieved.... now with video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90zTpqkRDI

This was done at probably 1/2 what a z06 costs and insurance is a lot cheaper.

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Ugly as sin
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Originally Posted by mark896
Ugly as sin
Never understood that saying. You should see some of my sins. Far away from ugly...
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Originally Posted by Dans C6
If you want to talk ugly as sin, let's talk C3 Corvette. That is a partial abortion that was born. C4-C5-C6 and the early 60's vettes were the only nice looking ones. And the Porsche 928......

Really? Who thought this was a good idea?

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