RUGBY

Where did you get that info? Thx

Steve_S14

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...topanel..1.*#2


Lets hope they put up a better fight than that!

LOL i just read the whole article and noticed that they wrote 1:40 instead of 7:40..... i'd like to see the 1:40 lap time, lol

C6Bill

the article states the 1:40 time was run on the TEST track. The GTR ran 1:38 on the same track. The article also stated that the ZR1 should shave about four seconds off of the 1:40 time.

Steve_S14

the 1.40 thing is a typo


the gt-r ran a 7.38 around the ring (confirmed by nissan) (video online) -semi-wet conditions
the zr1 did a 7.40 around (estimated by edmunds)

the gt-r v-spec did it in 7.25 (estimated by edmunds)

flyboyzack

Are you talking about the "rice" (GTR) that will blow the doors off of your vette? Or are you talking about the "rice" that I happen to own that will also blow the doors off your vette? I'm confused.

People need to start appreciating a car for what it is regardless if it's American or import.


These are such incredible cars and people talk so much about them from all walks of automotive life, pretty much all the NON-GTR forums have to create a separate thread/section due to all the talk about this car. I find this amusing.

Epik

Well it looks like the ZR1 isn't going to be a letdown. But according to the article it's low 7:40's, not 7:40.

It might be able to catch the 7:38 time but 7:25 seems far fetched.

Thanks for the edmunds link, I couldn't find any 'ring times for the ZR1 when I searched yesterday.

GroundPounder

I hope ZR1 wins so that we don't have to hear lame excuse from Vette fundamentalist.
I'm more tired with their whining than frequent GTR threads.

M_C7

I agree

Its two differnt arguments

z06 vs GTR

Zr1 vs Vspec


and the reason you arnt going to seea HUGE improvement ZR1 time over the Z06 ( i guess we are using the 7:42 figure) is at some point the HP increase on a track light that becomes a mute point onve you get to a certain level and it becomes more about the chasis the balance and the aerodynamics

again thats why i think the final # will be in the high 7:30's


but at the end of the day is a fun rivalery for fans of both cars to be a part of. waiting for those #'s to come in is no different than two groups of people at a bar going back and forth over who is winning the game, i just dont know why so many people get physically angry over it.

El Puto

Are you talking about all Vettes? Who's Vette?

Pssst - here's a little secret - this is a Vette Board. the people on this board tend to be biased toward vettes. they prefer vettes. But please try to keep this under your hat. Shhhh

skyline_man

I doubt that the ZR-1 can even beat the base GTR's time of 7.38, let alone come close to the V-spec. Being a RWD, the power increase in the ZR-1 over the Z06 is useless and will not help it anymore around a track. What the ZR-1 needs is a proper drivetrain - similar to the GTR so that it can utilize all of its power. Power is useless without control.

The famous Australian racing driver, Jim Richards, who drove the R32 GTRs to victory in the Australian touring car championships in the early 90's said, "On a race track, once you've got more than 600hp in a car - you definitely need AWD. And the Nissan's AWD system is just awesome".

efranzen

Are there other AWD cars that have set faster lap times at the Nurburgring?

RUGBY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

nordy racer

it's amazing that they come on a Vette forum to talk about the GTR.. why don't you head over to the Nissan forums and blow them up with all your threads...

O and i own a 300ZX TT and i'm tired of all the GTR threads in here.. GET OVER IT..

GroundPounder

I'm more tired of cryboy like you. GET OVER IT..

nordy racer

sure thing bud.. PM me when you get your GTR and i'll leave ya in my dust in my 1987 buck GN...

GroundPounder

McMung

COMPLETE nonsense. The ZR1 is clearly targeted at the GT market, i.e., 599 GTB Fiorano, L 640 Murc, Merc SLR, and the like. It is anything BUT a track/ACR car. At this time, GM do not have an offering in the same segment as the GT-R V Spec, Viper ACR, Porsche GT3RS or GT2, F430 Scuderia,...

_Will_

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Manufacturers, magazines, and tests are not to be trusted.

I'll believe it when we see it in real life.

When folks start showing up at the road course with stock GTRs and beat stock Z06s, then I'll be a believer.

I'm certainly not foolish enough to think that after their success with the c5z06 and the c6z06 that Chevy and GM were destined to reign on top forever. Obviously not gonna happen because of competition, they're going to have to up the ante at some point because they are the target everyone is gunning for now and there are too many good companies, engineers, and truck loads of cash floating around.

But whether or not the GTR is that first car that takes the mantle is not a decision I'm going to base on ring times or magazines.

When real people start tracking real showroom GTRs against the Corvette head to head, then we'll see.

Epik

Apart from the V-Spec, all the other cars with similar times are supercars with hundreds of thousands of dollars put into them and even into the millions for a few.

I think the V-Spec has more potential to improve on the time than the vette. The GT-R has the balance and control and they can continue to strip weight and increase power whereas the ZR1 has enough power but not the handling or the AWD.

M_C7

Z06/GTR
ZR1 / Vspec

are viable comparisons atleas t in the context of this great ring time debate. both are similar priced and in essence both are different performance levels of the same car

besides the Vspec with its diet will still be roughly atleast 300 lbs more than and around 70hp down on the ZR1