JJS04

I read that the 2009 WRX is actually quicker than the 2009 STi. Is this true?

Entropy

Have you got a link?

WAwatchnut

I think one of the magazines reported that during their test. Although not really quicker as I think the 0-60 times was 0.1 sec faster, but there's always variance due to testing.

They added 40 hp and 20 lbs of torque over the 2008, and the WRX is 220 lbs lighter than the STI.

I've been thinking of trading my 2003 WRX in on a used C55, but maybe an new WRX would be a good substitute...

JJS04

No, no link. I just remember reading it the other day and thought I'd mention it. I'm almost certain that it was from one of the car magazine websites like Car and Driver or Road & Track.

JJS04

I've had two Subarus, one a WRX and the other a fully modded STi. They are an absolute blast to drive. To tell you the truth I think I enjoyed driving them more than I do the Vette.

Dueysan

I had on 04' WRX slightly modded and as much as I love the Corvette the WRX was more fun....especially in the snow (DUH!). I've seen several sources saying the 09' WRX is faster to 60 than the 09' STi and it is probably true...that does not necessarily make it a better performer than the STi. The much sturdier 6 speed transmission and better brakes are the big improvement of any STI over the cheaper WRX. I acutally prefer the WRX interior and gauges over the smurf blue seating and almost pinkish red gauges in the STi. The STi and Evo have priced themselves out of the performance car market. It is still based on the Impreza econobox platform, with a cheap cheap stereo, ultrathin paint, hard plastics, cheap switchgear and everything else you would expect in a sub 20K econobox only it goes fast and has AWD. For the same money I can get cars from 90% to beyond the performance of the Evo and STi with much much better styling, build quality and a tons of additional content including integrated Nav sound systems, heated leather seating, automatic headlamps, anti-theft features and on and on. Also check your insurance before you buy one, they can be quite high.....like the Mustang they are a favorite for teenagers to wrap around telephone poles and fly into ditches with.

JJS04

Found one:

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g..._test/(page)/1

Entropy

Damn.

I'm guessing the weight difference is between the hatch vs. the sedan?

JJS04

For ten g's less you get a faster and just as capable of a car.

WAwatchnut

Ahhh... not really. All of the reviews I've read have pointed out the stronger mid and high end acceleration. After 60, the STI is pulling away.

The 0-60 times are a bit of a mismatch because the shorter gearing on the STI requires 2 shifts to hit 60, which adds a quarter to a half second.

That's not even mentioning the improved suspension and AWD system. So 0-60 the WRX is as fast as the STI, but in all other aspects, the STI is the better performing car. And it will probably be much quicker around a track.

But the WRX is a smoking deal. I'd seriously consider it over the STI as a DD.

WAwatchnut

And the suspension and transmission differences too.

Dave68

Based upon those statements, I'd say the WRX is a much better everyday car than the STI. Now if only that hood scoop were smaller........

JJS04

It is a bit boy-racerish huh.

Entropy

At least it's functional. I like this approach more then the original which wasn't integrated but tacked on.

tjZ06

Reading that article it says the WRX is faster through the 1/4 mile too! Are the WRX trannies still made of glass and balsa wood? Are they still open diffs front and rear?

-TJ

Dave68

If you compare it to the CAI opening in the C6 Z06, you might think that the Subaru's engine must be pumping out 2000 HP. Hoe could it possibly need that much air?

Entropy

Turbo air has a tendency to run hot. By design the intercooler sits right on top of the intake, rather then down in front of the radiator like most normal turbo cars.

tjZ06

Correct, that scoop feeds cool fresh air to the intercooler, it does not provide intake air.

-TJ

Dave68

That makes sense. I guess the Mitsu EVO positions their intercooler up front?

Entropy

Yup. The big opening in the bumper.

I think Subaru put their intercooler up top because of the flat-4 design. Lots of space up there.