Other Cars Non-Corvette Content, Daily Drivers, Winter Beaters, Work Trucks, Tow Vehicles, for sale

2011 Mustang GT a ZO6 eater?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:49 PM
  #1  
DARRYLZO6
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
DARRYLZO6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2009
Location: Always in my lane.
Posts: 1,438
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default 2011 Mustang GT a ZO6 eater?

Im sure that a lot of you guys/gals have seen/read the latest editions of Motor Trend/ Car and Driver about the upcoming GT Mustang able to eek out a 4.3 to 60 and 12.9 qt. I know that the Gt is considerably heavier and has nowhere near the horsepower of the ZO6, but do you think its concieveable that with minor bolt-ons (headers,CAI ,tuning) the GT could be a pain in the ***? I think i know the answer but I would love your opinions.
DARRYLZO6 is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 03:30 PM
  #2  
bumble-z
Le Mans Master
 
bumble-z's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2007
Location: Belleville Mich.
Posts: 5,393
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts

Default

Upcoming Mustang GT = 12.9 = 1/4 mi. Come on, the 01 Z, straight off the assembly line could beat them #'s a decade ago!
bumble-z is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 03:34 PM
  #3  
Never Late
Racer
 
Never Late's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 413
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

its basically going to be similar to an 03 cobra in weight and performance...the 03 cobra stock was running low 13s and hitting 12.8s and 12.9s stock. The car has about the same hp and weight ratio. Once again mod for mod the z06 will be faster and better. Ford always will add hp and then add another 300lbs..and from what i hear the sticker price is from 37k-40k not for a mustang gt. no thanks.
Never Late is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 03:37 PM
  #4  
Never Late
Racer
 
Never Late's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 413
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Also as said above compare that to a car made a decade ago and those numbers were beat without a thought of a mod. As these cars become older newer technology will allow others to become faster. Yet just compare the 2011 mustang gt to a C6 z06..your back to comparing basically a 2002 gt to an 02 z06...
Never Late is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 04:04 PM
  #5  
imavettegirl
Drifting
 
imavettegirl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: either, ca/ohio
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

i bet no one even looks at most mustangs twice.

every day someone comments on my 01 torch red Z06.

knowing that it is faster then most other vehicles is enough for me.
imavettegirl is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 04:05 PM
  #6  
SilverZohsix
Instructor
 
SilverZohsix's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2010
Location: Troy IL
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

yeah i'd agree, it's right on par with the 03/04 cobras. has about the same power and weight of a cobra as well. the new 4v 5.0 should respond very well to simple bolt ons, but that's where most people will stop as they'll need FI since without displacement on their side...
SilverZohsix is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 04:43 PM
  #7  
Vegas Vette
Melting Slicks

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Vegas Vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 2,782
Received 137 Likes on 91 Posts

Default

I was a long time Mustang Gt owner before I moved up the Z06. The Gt's I owned were form 87 thru 93 fun cars but no comparsion to my
Z06.

I am putting down 585RWHP a GT might want to think twice if they roll up on me. 585's not huge numbers but light to light its a monster from a roll stand by.....
Vegas Vette is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 05:25 PM
  #8  
James92
Burning Brakes
 
James92's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2006
Location: Burbank CA
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I'm also a former multiple fox body mustang owner and they were fun in a straight line with lots of mods, I had one running low 10's. But, the Z06 is just a complete performance package. The new GT will probably be a fun car to drive(I'll let you know, my uncle is a salesman at Galpin). But, it won't be on par with our cars.
James92 is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 05:30 PM
  #9  
SCM_Crash
Le Mans Master
 
SCM_Crash's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2009
Location: Los Angeles California
Posts: 9,526
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Well, they run an 11.82 with slick/skinny, K&N, off-road x-pipe and a tune.

I'm not at all scared of them. LOL

Our cars run into the 11's with a CAI.
According to the fast list, a bone stock Z06 can run into the 11s alone.
SCM_Crash is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 05:34 PM
  #10  
Vegas Vette
Melting Slicks

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Vegas Vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 2,782
Received 137 Likes on 91 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
Well, they run an 11.82 with slick/skinny, K&N, off-road x-pipe and a tune.

I'm not at all scared of them. LOL

Our cars run into the 11's with a CAI.
According to the fast list, a bone stock Z06 can run into the 11s alone.


Maybe I will get to play with one some time....
Vegas Vette is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 05:53 PM
  #11  
rbartick
Le Mans Master
 
rbartick's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Admit Nothing, Deny Everything, Make Counter Accusations.
Posts: 7,326
Received 514 Likes on 346 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by DARRYLZO6
do you think its concieveable that with minor bolt-ons (headers,CAI ,tuning) the GT could be a pain in the ***?
Yes.

Z06 eater...no.
rbartick is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 06:13 PM
  #12  
Nofreee
Advanced
 
Nofreee's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Location: Colorado Springs CO
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DARRYLZO6
Im sure that a lot of you guys/gals have seen/read the latest editions of Motor Trend/ Car and Driver about the upcoming GT Mustang able to eek out a 4.3 to 60 and 12.9 qt. I know that the Gt is considerably heavier and has nowhere near the horsepower of the ZO6, but do you think its concieveable that with minor bolt-ons (headers,CAI ,tuning) the GT could be a pain in the ***? I think i know the answer but I would love your opinions.
They actually have more HP then a C5 Z06 stock for stock (412hp), but they will still weigh 3600lbs+. Compare that to the ~3150lbs of a C5Z.

Standard they come with 19x8.5 rear wheels (18x10.5 in the C5Z) which means the Z has more rubber touching the road and therefore is able to put more power down without spinning.

You also have to factor in the drag coefficient of the two cars. The 2011 GT is rumored to have a .38 coefficient to the C5Z's .29. From a roll, wind resistance will be a huge factor for the GT, where as the C5Z is much more slippery though the air.

Add all these factors together and while the 2011 GT will be a quick car, no doubt about it, a C5Z will still walk all over it on the strip, road and around a track. A C6Z will absolutely demolish it.

Last edited by Nofreee; 05-12-2010 at 06:16 PM.
Nofreee is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 06:38 PM
  #13  
Skunk Works
Intermediate
 
Skunk Works's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Also keep in mind the aerodynamics... anything from a roll over 60 will be a very fast walk away if it had not happened lower down with the weight difference.

I love the throwback style of the new mustangs, but the C5 Z is what I want for a new toy regardless.

When I had my 99 Formula putting down 385 RW, mustangs with similar numbers would hold their own until I got to third, then I would just walk away with the better drag coefficient of the formula. I imagine it would be very similar with the comparrison currently being debated.
Skunk Works is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 07:42 PM
  #14  
Quickshift_C5
Melting Slicks
 
Quickshift_C5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 2,717
Received 141 Likes on 120 Posts

Default

its basically going to be similar to an 03 cobra in weight
It's 400lbs lighter than the 03 Cobra...

The 2011 Mustang GT with light mods will be a good competitor to a stock C5 z06. Anyone debating that just has blinders on because they are obsessed with their car. For one thing, it's only been tested on the track by reviewers...no doubt that some very competent drivers will be able to run it further into the 12's in stock form. It may never be as good on the road course stock, but with some mods it might come close...if not better than a stock C5 z06.

The new Mustang is going to be a great car, and it's about time that Ford addressed some of the things that made it undesireable. With a few mods, it's going to be able to make a lot of guys out there in nice cars think twice about challenging it.
Quickshift_C5 is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 08:11 PM
  #15  
zeevette
Race Director
 
zeevette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2005
Location: Pasco WA
Posts: 10,807
Received 288 Likes on 235 Posts

Default

I like what Ford's done with the 'Stang, and wouldn't mind owning one again, but you can't compare it to a C5Z in any performance area. One major problem that Ford owners have, is the inability to do any extensive performance mods, and remain NA. The complexity of OHC motors make them very difficult/expensive for shade-tree type mechanics to boost HP without power adders. It's incredibly easy for LS owners to get over 500 flywheel HP from their motors, and still retain decent fuel consumption, a feat that Ford can't match with their "mod" motors.
zeevette is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 09:36 PM
  #16  
GTO2Vette
Advanced
 
GTO2Vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2009
Location: Plano TX
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
Well, they run an 11.82 with slick/skinny, K&N, off-road x-pipe and a tune.

I'm not at all scared of them. LOL

Our cars run into the 11's with a CAI.
According to the fast list, a bone stock Z06 can run into the 11s alone.
The new 2012 runs those times? Do you have a link?

Originally Posted by Quickshift_C5
It's 400lbs lighter than the 03 Cobra...

.
Really......
http://www.rsportscars.com/ford/2004...mustang-cobra/
GTO2Vette is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 09:57 PM
  #17  
Quickshift_C5
Melting Slicks
 
Quickshift_C5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 2,717
Received 141 Likes on 120 Posts

Default

Really......
[URL="http://www.rsportscars.com/ford/2004-ford-svt-mustang-cobra/"]http://www.rsportscars.com/ford/2004-ford-svt-mustang-cobra/
Thought I saw a few places saying the 2011 Mustang GT weighed 3400lbs. Looking around now, I could have been mistaken.

Congratulations. Someone should hand you a cookie.
Quickshift_C5 is offline  

Get notified of new replies

To 2011 Mustang GT a ZO6 eater?

Old 05-12-2010, 10:26 PM
  #18  
ls2alex
Burning Brakes
 
ls2alex's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Location: sf bay CA
Posts: 761
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Quickshift_C5
It's 400lbs lighter than the 03 Cobra...
ls2alex is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 11:05 PM
  #19  
Quickshift_C5
Melting Slicks
 
Quickshift_C5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 2,717
Received 141 Likes on 120 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ls2alex
You're 30min late to the party. Gotta keep reading skippy.
Quickshift_C5 is offline  
Old 05-12-2010, 11:34 PM
  #20  
deadcafe
Burning Brakes
 
deadcafe's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2009
Location: Virginia Beach Virginia
Posts: 816
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Quickshift_C5
You're 30min late to the party. Gotta keep reading skippy.
a Mustangbeat a Corvette. this aint the 80's and I dont drive a California edition.
deadcafe is offline  


Quick Reply: 2011 Mustang GT a ZO6 eater?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:42 PM.