ZR1 vs Ford GT
#41
Hardly the BEST looking car of all time since it is a REDESIGN of the ORIGINAL GT40. I would buy the fact that the GT40 MK series is classic and one of the top ten designs of ALL time
#42
i figured that the ZR1 was one of the cars to have and keep. but in addition to the ZR1, i wanted to try a FGT.
can i ask what you guys didn't/don't like about the FGT?
i am not a museum guy. i like to drive em and burn some rubber.
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#43
ZR1 or FGT
Have had many Vettes including (2) C6 Z06's that I liked very much. Very similar performance to a stock FGT. Passed on the opportunity to purchased a deeply discounted 200 mile ZR1 which had been "returned" to the dealer in perfect condition. The closest I have been to a moving ZR1 was on an interstate and the ZR1 ran like a fast 600cc bike, and my very modestly and inexpensively upgraded FGT ran away from it like it does against fast 600 cc bikes.
Opinions are like a$$holes, but any objective car person who prefers the looks of a ZR1 over a FGT is either on drugs or simply can not afford a FGT.
Try to think of another exotic that 5 years after it was built, is still typically worth the original MSRP.
Have always liked Corvettes and will probably buy a C7, but until then, and probably even then, if you want to ruin a Corvette Rally, pull up in a FGT.
Opinions are like a$$holes, but any objective car person who prefers the looks of a ZR1 over a FGT is either on drugs or simply can not afford a FGT.
Try to think of another exotic that 5 years after it was built, is still typically worth the original MSRP.
Have always liked Corvettes and will probably buy a C7, but until then, and probably even then, if you want to ruin a Corvette Rally, pull up in a FGT.
#45
Have you looked at the 1963 Ferrari 250 GTO pricing lately ? One sold to a British TV/radio personality for close to the asking price of $20 Million, I think this one beats inflation
Back to the OP, easier to "live" with the ZR1 than with the F-GT, I have a ZO6 and an F-GT, it's always a challenge figuiring out where to park the GT when out to dinner, not so with the ZO6, seems trivial but in reality it's an issue. You must try to parrallel park otherwise you won't be able to get out of the GT . But at the end of the day, having an F-GT is like owning a piece of American history, the design is timeless, and there's lots of racing history behind the car. Needless to say I can't wait to upgrade my ZO6 to the ZR1
Back to the OP, easier to "live" with the ZR1 than with the F-GT, I have a ZO6 and an F-GT, it's always a challenge figuiring out where to park the GT when out to dinner, not so with the ZO6, seems trivial but in reality it's an issue. You must try to parrallel park otherwise you won't be able to get out of the GT . But at the end of the day, having an F-GT is like owning a piece of American history, the design is timeless, and there's lots of racing history behind the car. Needless to say I can't wait to upgrade my ZO6 to the ZR1
Yes, that car is a rarity, and those kinds of things are not commonplace as said in my post. If everyone knew that Ferrari would be worth 20 mil right now, I think it would have been a no-brainer. But it wasn't the case. Same with the Toyota 2000GT of 1967. Selling now for up to $375,000. Those are rarities. General rule of cars, they just aren't investments. There are always exceptions to the rule right?
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Yes, that car is a rarity, and those kinds of things are not commonplace as said in my post. If everyone knew that Ferrari would be worth 20 mil right now, I think it would have been a no-brainer. But it wasn't the case. Same with the Toyota 2000GT of 1967. Selling now for up to $375,000. Those are rarities. General rule of cars, they just aren't investments. There are always exceptions to the rule right?
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#48
As I said before the ZR1 is the perfect daily driver......The FGT is fun to drive but you cant park it anywhere. IMHO the ZR1 is faster and more fun to drive too.
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#51
Melting Slicks
It is a fantastic car overall, with styling and a fragrant leather smell the Vette can't match, and it doesn't even require a fuel injector upgrade to make 1000 rwhp, but.....
It has a lousy stereo, no rear visibility, no storage, and the sun visors don't fold to the side windows.
I addressed the stereo/storage issues with very trick (but expensive) aftermarket solutions, but the ZR1 is a Cadillac compared to the FGT.
Not that any of that matters when I crank up that TT 5.4 and hit the road....it is a fantastic driving car that I wouldn't trade for anything.
I'm just lucky enough to have both in the garage. Life is good....
#53
So do I, and I own both. Ran the FGT stock (500 rwhp), then with a Whipple(720 rwhp) and now TT (840/950 rwhp).
It is a fantastic car overall, with styling and a fragrant leather smell the Vette can't match, and it doesn't even require a fuel injector upgrade to make 1000 rwhp, but.....
It has a lousy stereo, no rear visibility, no storage, and the sun visors don't fold to the side windows.
I addressed the stereo/storage issues with very trick (but expensive) aftermarket solutions, but the ZR1 is a Cadillac compared to the FGT.
Not that any of that matters when I crank up that TT 5.4 and hit the road....it is a fantastic driving car that I wouldn't trade for anything.
I'm just lucky enough to have both in the garage. Life is good....
It is a fantastic car overall, with styling and a fragrant leather smell the Vette can't match, and it doesn't even require a fuel injector upgrade to make 1000 rwhp, but.....
It has a lousy stereo, no rear visibility, no storage, and the sun visors don't fold to the side windows.
I addressed the stereo/storage issues with very trick (but expensive) aftermarket solutions, but the ZR1 is a Cadillac compared to the FGT.
Not that any of that matters when I crank up that TT 5.4 and hit the road....it is a fantastic driving car that I wouldn't trade for anything.
I'm just lucky enough to have both in the garage. Life is good....
#54
#55
I would love to own a Ford GT, but I'm sort of on the fence in regards to calling it one of the best looking cars. It looks "striking" but in my opinion it doesn't really look "good". It doesn't really have a mean or aggressive look from the front. However, the sound is plenty mean and aggressive.
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Melting Slicks
#57
Melting Slicks
So do I, and I own both. Ran the FGT stock (500 rwhp), then with a Whipple(720 rwhp) and now TT (840/950 rwhp).
It is a fantastic car overall, with styling and a fragrant leather smell the Vette can't match, and it doesn't even require a fuel injector upgrade to make 1000 rwhp, but.....
It has a lousy stereo, no rear visibility, no storage, and the sun visors don't fold to the side windows.
I addressed the stereo/storage issues with very trick (but expensive) aftermarket solutions, but the ZR1 is a Cadillac compared to the FGT.
Not that any of that matters when I crank up that TT 5.4 and hit the road....it is a fantastic driving car that I wouldn't trade for anything.
I'm just lucky enough to have both in the garage. Life is good....
It is a fantastic car overall, with styling and a fragrant leather smell the Vette can't match, and it doesn't even require a fuel injector upgrade to make 1000 rwhp, but.....
It has a lousy stereo, no rear visibility, no storage, and the sun visors don't fold to the side windows.
I addressed the stereo/storage issues with very trick (but expensive) aftermarket solutions, but the ZR1 is a Cadillac compared to the FGT.
Not that any of that matters when I crank up that TT 5.4 and hit the road....it is a fantastic driving car that I wouldn't trade for anything.
I'm just lucky enough to have both in the garage. Life is good....
#58
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I would love to own a Ford GT, but I'm sort of on the fence in regards to calling it one of the best looking cars. It looks "striking" but in my opinion it doesn't really look "good". It doesn't really have a mean or aggressive look from the front. However, the sound is plenty mean and aggressive.
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Like I said I own both and in stock form the ZR1 is faster but my GT has a tune and pulley upgrade only and is now faster than my ZR1, and drives exactly as stock but faster, but it is harder to get in and out of than the ZR1 which is kind of a pain in the *** and really the only thing I don't like about the car. As far as build quality and paint finish etc, the GT is far superior, and its chassis is much stiffer with no body flex and drives much better than the ZR1 IMO, and the car doesn't have any of the issues ZR1 owners complain of, such as wheel vibration or drifting, etc. Also the GT interior IMO is also superior, more race car like, and the shifter is just awesome (smooth as silk) as is the Mcintosh Stereo which I think someone said the ZR1 is better but its not, the Mac is much better. As far as looks go I agree they are subjective and I really like the ZR1 looks, but I am also with the opinion that the GT is one of the best looking designs ever and very unique, unlike the ZR1 which only Corvette guys can tell from a regular Corvette. I can hardly drive the GT anywhere without a crowd and people taking pictures etc, and probably all those things I mentioned in this post is why 6 years later after they starting making the GT there still bringing close to or above MSRP for used ones. I believe you get what you pay for and thats why the GT costs what it costs and the ZR1 costs what it costs!
Last edited by jamie furman; 12-16-2010 at 08:07 AM.
#60
The fact that production of the G.T. has ended have something to do with "what it costs"?