2011 Z06 vs 2011 GT500 vs 2012 GTR in Motortrend
02-19-2011, 05:51 PM
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Whether or not the car looks good is debatable, personally I like how the GTR looks.
The performance however leaves no doubt. 0 to 60 in 2.9 and 11.2 in the quarter from the factory is nuts.
With Mustang GTs making over 400 HP and available for 30K, and the GTR kicking *** and taking names, the C7 cannot come soon enough.
I love my GS, but the C6 is getting long in the tooth. It appears that the C7 is at least 2 or 3 years away from production, and competition is way too strong these days for such a long model cycle.
The performance however leaves no doubt. 0 to 60 in 2.9 and 11.2 in the quarter from the factory is nuts.
With Mustang GTs making over 400 HP and available for 30K, and the GTR kicking *** and taking names, the C7 cannot come soon enough.
I love my GS, but the C6 is getting long in the tooth. It appears that the C7 is at least 2 or 3 years away from production, and competition is way too strong these days for such a long model cycle.
02-19-2011, 05:55 PM
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You are one of the few that does like how the GTR looks. Hey, if Rosie Odonell can find someone who thinks she is attractive it makes sense someone would find the GTR a looker. I still believe it takes a entire package of looks & performance to make a truly remarkable sports car as the Corvette has done for so many years.
02-19-2011, 05:55 PM
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Any car manufacturer can make a car fast. Yet, it takes a great car company to make a car fast and great looking. With any sports car its the entire package including looks, handling and, speed. Just as with women its the entire package. Otherwise you and up with a girl that has a Rosie Odonell face with a Carmen Electra body.
She is damn ugly, though!! 
02-19-2011, 05:59 PM
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In theory yes for a total stripper..NOT one single option and CLOTH seats, NO Brembo upgrade etc....and good luck finding one built like that for sale.
Most GT/5.0 are leather seated with some options...to even get a 5.0 into a comparison with a GS (the 5.0 will generally lose) your more in the ball park of a $38-39k msrp with options including Brembo brakes etc.
The only Mustang you will find that can hang (driver based) with a Coupe or GS is the GT500 (and potentially the Boss 302, especially the Boss 302 Laguna Seca in track key configuration when it arrives). No need to freak out about GT's/5.0s just yet.
02-19-2011, 06:04 PM
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Agreed as to the need for the C7...but ...I defend Mustangs here more then anyone (I live in both worlds and intentionally own both and yes my Z06 is faster) HOWEVER a GT aka 5.0 Mustang for $30k???.
In theory yes for a total stripper..NOT one single option and CLOTH seats, NO Brembo upgrade etc....and good luck finding one built like that for sale.
Most GT/5.0 are leather seated with some options...to even get a 5.0 into a comparison with a GS (the 5.0 will generally lose) your more in the ball park of a $38-39k msrp with options including Brembo brakes etc.
The only Mustang you will find that can hang (driver based) with a Coupe or GS is the GT500 (and potentially the Boss 302, especially the Boss 302 Laguna Seca in track key configuration when it arrives). No need to freak out about GT's/5.0s just yet.
In theory yes for a total stripper..NOT one single option and CLOTH seats, NO Brembo upgrade etc....and good luck finding one built like that for sale.
Most GT/5.0 are leather seated with some options...to even get a 5.0 into a comparison with a GS (the 5.0 will generally lose) your more in the ball park of a $38-39k msrp with options including Brembo brakes etc.
The only Mustang you will find that can hang (driver based) with a Coupe or GS is the GT500 (and potentially the Boss 302, especially the Boss 302 Laguna Seca in track key configuration when it arrives). No need to freak out about GT's/5.0s just yet.
As far as availability of cars without many options, I dont think Ive ever seen a Z06 for less than 90K on a dealer lot or a GS for less than 60K.
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02-19-2011, 06:05 PM
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Indeed 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds thats super super car territory. GTR weights 4000 lbs and has similar power ratings as Z06 yet it walks all over it with all that extra weight? Gotta be the drivetrain, better tranny....
02-19-2011, 06:06 PM
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Agreed as to the need for the C7...but ...I defend Mustangs here more then anyone (I live in both worlds and intentionally own both and yes my Z06 is faster) HOWEVER a GT aka 5.0 Mustang for $30k???.
In theory yes for a total stripper..NOT one single option and CLOTH seats, NO Brembo upgrade etc....and good luck finding one built like that for sale.
Most GT/5.0 are leather seated with some options...to even get a 5.0 into a comparison with a GS (the 5.0 will generally lose) your more in the ball park of a $38-39k msrp with options including Brembo brakes etc.
The only Mustang you will find that can hang (driver based) with a Coupe or GS is the GT500 (and potentially the Boss 302, especially the Boss 302 Laguna Seca in track key configuration when it arrives). No need to freak out about GT's/5.0s just yet.
In theory yes for a total stripper..NOT one single option and CLOTH seats, NO Brembo upgrade etc....and good luck finding one built like that for sale.
Most GT/5.0 are leather seated with some options...to even get a 5.0 into a comparison with a GS (the 5.0 will generally lose) your more in the ball park of a $38-39k msrp with options including Brembo brakes etc.
The only Mustang you will find that can hang (driver based) with a Coupe or GS is the GT500 (and potentially the Boss 302, especially the Boss 302 Laguna Seca in track key configuration when it arrives). No need to freak out about GT's/5.0s just yet.
The thing is though, a few years ago many of us were laughing at the GTs. I don't think many people are laughing now. Especially as Chevy continues to sit on it's hands as far as the Vette is concerned.
02-19-2011, 06:09 PM
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I like its looks too and only wished I could have afforded a GTR but not at this point. Im sure looks are in the eye of the beholder, just cuz you dont like the lokos doesnt mean its not an entire package. Im sure their sales are doing quit well. Here in El Paso there are atleast 13 GTRs around sold by the Nissan dealer I was taking 370Z to. I dont think I see 13 ZR1s around here. And Im sure I can find a women who thinks you should be Rosie and not her. Perspective. And you need to know the long history behind the GTRs and Fairladys AKA the Zs.
So I offened the car you like and you make it personal? It is clear by your post where you are coming from.
As for the history I know full well the history of the GTR and the Z's. Yet, try and tell us all how it remotely compares to the legend the Corvette is.
02-19-2011, 06:09 PM
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The coming Z28 or whatever Chevy is going to call the supercharged Camaro is also probably going to smoke a base/GS Vette, at least as far as straight line performance is concerned.
02-19-2011, 06:11 PM
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02-19-2011, 06:28 PM
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It should put out about the same numbers as the CTS-V, which will put it in GS territory.
02-19-2011, 06:40 PM
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02-19-2011, 06:48 PM
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2 that like the looks.
So I offened the car you like and you make it personal? It is clear by your post where you are coming from.
As for the history I know full well the history of the GTR and the Z's. Yet, try and tell us all how it remotely compares to the legend the Corvette is.
So I offened the car you like and you make it personal? It is clear by your post where you are coming from.
As for the history I know full well the history of the GTR and the Z's. Yet, try and tell us all how it remotely compares to the legend the Corvette is.
02-19-2011, 06:49 PM
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Then it should be compared to the Z06 or the ZR1. Why compare it 100 hp more SC car to a lower hp NA car?
02-19-2011, 06:55 PM
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my point is that many cars have caught up to the Vette and the C7 needs to arrive sooner rather than later
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02-19-2011, 06:59 PM
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02-19-2011, 07:15 PM
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No you can search all over the web and you will hear how many believe the car is ugly. You will often hear it looks better in person then in pictures. Now try telling your wife or gf she looks better in person then in a picture and see how far that will get you.