Ferrari and Corvette Prices
03-21-2011, 09:01 PM
#21
um, no.
Just got u pegged by now.
I think you been drinking your own kool-aid for so long u actually believe it.
And that is SloChicken to you, sister.
A nickname from the early SCCA days.
Not that you would understand - some of us actually do race ...
Just got u pegged by now.
I think you been drinking your own kool-aid for so long u actually believe it.
And that is SloChicken to you, sister.
A nickname from the early SCCA days.
Not that you would understand - some of us actually do race ...
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03-21-2011, 09:03 PM
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03-21-2011, 09:08 PM
#23
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But thanks...
03-21-2011, 09:10 PM
#24
Don't mind Racer,
His 100000000 posts and the signature that say's he "knows what he is talking about" says it all
Anything that comes close to interfering with his ostensibly huge ego and he he comes out firing.
The guy really takes the fun out of the joint.
As for american exotics, there is the new hennesey.
or the new McLaren if you want to go that route.
But as you said, it is best if you are getting your car and regard it as a whimsy, because if you think of it as an investment, then you will be in for a big bad, and sad surprise. 430s included - and that goes for vettes too.
His 100000000 posts and the signature that say's he "knows what he is talking about" says it all
Anything that comes close to interfering with his ostensibly huge ego and he he comes out firing.
The guy really takes the fun out of the joint.
As for american exotics, there is the new hennesey.
or the new McLaren if you want to go that route.
But as you said, it is best if you are getting your car and regard it as a whimsy, because if you think of it as an investment, then you will be in for a big bad, and sad surprise. 430s included - and that goes for vettes too.
03-21-2011, 09:12 PM
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03-21-2011, 09:13 PM
#27
Exactly. the name comes from a stuffed chicken with wide eyes that rode behind the b pillar in my old M3
In other words,
Say u are slo and prove different, instead of calling myself a "Racer" and well ...
U figure out the rest ..
In other words,
Say u are slo and prove different, instead of calling myself a "Racer" and well ...
U figure out the rest ..
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03-21-2011, 09:14 PM
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great thread
03-21-2011, 09:25 PM
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03-21-2011, 09:29 PM
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Only that to suggest that most modern Ferraris are not investments and depreciate just like Corvettes and most other cars. The other point is directed at those who like to rant on this forum about how a Corvette is faster than some Ferraris, or wonder if a Ferrari is the better vehicle of choice. etc. Simply trying to bring some things into perspective for those who might believe that a Ferrari is a viable option for those on a Corvette budget. Nothing more. Well, perhaps to suggest things like belt changes and major services in some Ferraris would make the payments for a year or more on a Corvette.
Do I sense some disagreement?
Do I sense some disagreement?
but that particular Ferrari is ugly and who wants a "front engine Ferrari" anyway, that's like getting a hamburger with salad instead of fries. I think I've heard in tv shows, possibly Top Gear, that the front engine ones and the ones with the rear seat depreciate horribly. I guess certain models will never depreciate like the Enzo. You pay more for a Ferrari because they spend a lot of money in a bunch of gadgets and gizmos that make any idiot feel like a race car driver and then they have to use a bunch of expensive materials to compensate for the weight. For almost 70k I would love to get a new Z06, Vettes are all about perfomance and power, a little bit less sophisticated though but who cares!
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03-21-2011, 09:47 PM
#32
I have been on Ducati for some 10 years now, at least for my track bikes, and my buddy's got one just like yours.
I like the bike well enough - reminds me of my '73 RD350.
I just repainted my screw around bike, a 99 944ss. Tons of fun! It's my little lightweight!
and my 999
And that, Racer, is how to use la Forza Italia! Not from some armchair. Eh?
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03-21-2011, 09:49 PM
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I don't know if I've ever seen an ugly Ferrari. Not sure one has ever been made.
I spent a huge amount of time walking around, looking at, and admiring that new Ferrari 458 I outran last October at the Texas Mile. Pictures don't do the 458 justice. It is one of the most gloriously beautiful cars I've ever seen. Inside and out. In the ZR section there's a thread about a fellow trying to make up his mind b/n a new MacLaren and the 458. I can't imagine that Mac will look anywhere near as sexy as the 458.
One thing I tip my hat to the Italians for (besides some pretty darned good food and wine), is they do design some of the best looking automobiles on the planet.
I appreciate their style and the engineering/performance. I also enjoyed outrunning it.
Great thing about world class sports cars - Corvette included - is that you can get just about anything today depending on what you're most interested in. For me, it's relatively worry-free miles accumulation/track events. For others, it's some other driver motivating them.
In the end, it's all good. Choices are a good thing. We should rejoice that we're living thru a time of some fantastic high performance autos from all over the world.
I spent a huge amount of time walking around, looking at, and admiring that new Ferrari 458 I outran last October at the Texas Mile. Pictures don't do the 458 justice. It is one of the most gloriously beautiful cars I've ever seen. Inside and out. In the ZR section there's a thread about a fellow trying to make up his mind b/n a new MacLaren and the 458. I can't imagine that Mac will look anywhere near as sexy as the 458.
One thing I tip my hat to the Italians for (besides some pretty darned good food and wine), is they do design some of the best looking automobiles on the planet.
I appreciate their style and the engineering/performance. I also enjoyed outrunning it.
Great thing about world class sports cars - Corvette included - is that you can get just about anything today depending on what you're most interested in. For me, it's relatively worry-free miles accumulation/track events. For others, it's some other driver motivating them.
In the end, it's all good. Choices are a good thing. We should rejoice that we're living thru a time of some fantastic high performance autos from all over the world.
03-21-2011, 09:57 PM
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I don't know if I've ever seen an ugly Ferrari. Not sure one has ever been made.
I spent a huge amount of time walking around, looking at, and admiring that new Ferrari 458 I outran last October at the Texas Mile. Pictures don't do the 458 justice. It is one of the most gloriously beautiful cars I've ever seen. Inside and out. In the ZR section there's a thread about a fellow trying to make up his mind b/n a new MacLaren and the 458. I can't imagine that Mac will look anywhere near as sexy as the 458.
One thing I tip my hat to the Italians for (besides some pretty darned good food and wine), is they do design some of the best looking automobiles on the planet.
I appreciate their style and the engineering/performance. I also enjoyed outrunning it.
Great thing about world class sports cars - Corvette included - is that you can get just about anything today depending on what you're most interested in. For me, it's relatively worry-free miles accumulation/track events. For others, it's some other driver motivating them.
In the end, it's all good. Choices are a good thing. We should rejoice that we're living thru a time of some fantastic high performance autos from all over the world.
I spent a huge amount of time walking around, looking at, and admiring that new Ferrari 458 I outran last October at the Texas Mile. Pictures don't do the 458 justice. It is one of the most gloriously beautiful cars I've ever seen. Inside and out. In the ZR section there's a thread about a fellow trying to make up his mind b/n a new MacLaren and the 458. I can't imagine that Mac will look anywhere near as sexy as the 458.
One thing I tip my hat to the Italians for (besides some pretty darned good food and wine), is they do design some of the best looking automobiles on the planet.
I appreciate their style and the engineering/performance. I also enjoyed outrunning it.
Great thing about world class sports cars - Corvette included - is that you can get just about anything today depending on what you're most interested in. For me, it's relatively worry-free miles accumulation/track events. For others, it's some other driver motivating them.
In the end, it's all good. Choices are a good thing. We should rejoice that we're living thru a time of some fantastic high performance autos from all over the world.
Some of the 80s ferraris are straight out u g l y
they ain't got no alibi.
Testarossa, Mondiale, etc ...
Blecch
That said, you are right, the 458 is a beautiful machine! I like the 599 just fine as well. It does look quite a bit like the vette tho. I still would rather have a nice 250gt tho. Just a matter of money, or lack thereof.
Before I got my vette, I looked at the Maserati Cambio Corsa, but I didn't want to take on the maintenance bill, or the depreciation.
The vette is a no brainer, and the economy lets me keep my boat in the water, my stable of motorcycles, and plenny money for track time and tires.
Of course, If I owned the hospital I work for it would be different.
However, I think I would rather have the new McLaren, or even a nice little Ariel Atom, or the KTM track car.
I do hear over and over that the 430 is the fastest car for trash talking from an armchair tho.
LOL
03-21-2011, 10:03 PM
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I spent a day on the track with a Testarossa. I was passing him, but that's because in part, his was a low mile original example that he wasn't pushing past about 70% or so.
The sound of that flat 12 under throttle was a sweet tune.
The sound of that flat 12 under throttle was a sweet tune.
03-21-2011, 10:07 PM
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I'm not an expert here but that Ferrari is ugly and who wants a "front engine Ferrari" anyway, that's like getting a hamburger with salad instead of fries. I think I've heard in tv shows, possibly Top Gear, that the front engine ones and the ones with the rear seat depreciate horribly. I guess certain models will never depreciate like the Enzo. You pay more for a Ferrari because they spend a lot of money in a bunch of gadgets and gizmos that make any idiot feel like a race car driver and then they have to use a bunch of expensive materials to compensate for the weight.
For almost 70k I would love to get a new Z06, Vettes are all about perfomance and power, a little bit less sophisticated though but who cares!
but that Ferrari is ugly and who wants a "front engine Ferrari" anyway, that's like getting a hamburger with salad instead of fries. I think I've heard in tv shows, possibly Top Gear, that the front engine ones and the ones with the rear seat depreciate horribly. I guess certain models will never depreciate like the Enzo. You pay more for a Ferrari because they spend a lot of money in a bunch of gadgets and gizmos that make any idiot feel like a race car driver and then they have to use a bunch of expensive materials to compensate for the weight. For almost 70k I would love to get a new Z06, Vettes are all about perfomance and power, a little bit less sophisticated though but who cares!
I am the proud owner of a 1998 C5 coupe. I enjoy the car quite a bit but I would never confuse it with a Ferrari V12 GT. I am currently looking for a 2003 or 2004 575M Maranello. Would really like to get my hands on a HGTC version. A nice low mileage one can be had in the high 90's. The engine in these cars is nearly bullet proof and most of the work on the car can be done by the owner himself. No fancy trips to the dealer for a plug change or other routine maintenance. The only real big ticket item is the regular timing belt changes. Can't quite understand why they engineered the car like that but they did. Anyways those mid-engine Ferraris you have to drop the engine out to do a plug swap.
The 550 and 575 are probably near the bottom of their depreciation curve. You can pick one up for $90k drive it and enjoy it without putting excessive miles on it and sell it in 3-4 years for pretty much the same amount. Try that with a new Z06 which will cost very near that same amount.
03-21-2011, 10:56 PM
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Buy an expensive Ferrari that nobody want's will practically always have bad resale. That is the rule of the thumb for nearly any car. The front engine ferrari/ boulevard cruisers don't hold their value. They remind me of the bad resale values of the 928 Porsches in there day. Stick with the the true performance models that people buy will limit your losses. Stewy
03-22-2011, 01:55 AM
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So are you saying that a Ferrari, or maybe just this one, depreciates more/faster than a Corvette?
Possibly. I don't keep track of the going rate since I'm not in the market for one. I had a chance to buy a new 2009 458 Italia with less than 300 miles on it for $150k, a great price but I didn't need it or want it. A former student of mine buys wheels in Beijing and brings back several containers a year. Last summer he brought back 4 of these and had them for sale, but it would have been next to impossible getting titles cleared and CA smog so I passed on it. Still, he sold all four in a couple weeks I heard.
Possibly. I don't keep track of the going rate since I'm not in the market for one. I had a chance to buy a new 2009 458 Italia with less than 300 miles on it for $150k, a great price but I didn't need it or want it. A former student of mine buys wheels in Beijing and brings back several containers a year. Last summer he brought back 4 of these and had them for sale, but it would have been next to impossible getting titles cleared and CA smog so I passed on it. Still, he sold all four in a couple weeks I heard.
03-22-2011, 07:50 AM
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It also got shock absorbers that are prone to leak. Its electric system is prone to failure too. And it is not exactly the best looking f-car either.
In short, this car has no redeemable features other than its badge and the resale shows. In fact an F360 of the same vintage with the same millage would fetch more money on the used market despite the fact that it was half as expensive when new.