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There are reports that the new 2015 Mustang will loose around 400lbs! This makes it around 3200lbs! How can it be lighter than C7? It is getting smaller, will be interesting to see how the dimensions and performance compare.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015...on-a-diet.html

AFVETTE

If true and it comes with the current 650HP GM better hurry the Z to market. But I doubt Ford could cut that much weight so I suspect it won't be any where near that in reality.

Daekwan06

Long hair. Dont care.

There were also plenty of substantial rumors that the C7 weighed less than 3000lbs and had 500hp. And what did find out when the car was actually announced? That it was just rumors.

When Ford actually produces a 2015 production Mustang. Then we can compare it to the 2014 production C7. Until then we might as well be comparing the next Mustang with the C8.

Michael A

Hopefully, Ford doesn't turn it into another Mustang II.

First off, this is a rumor, and may be based on the four cylinder engine model.

They also cut the size, and I doubt it will have the body stiffness of the C7, and all the heavy duty track ready pieces.

Michael

gthal

If this rumour is true and if they introduce the new flat plane crankshaft engine with 600hp and a 7,000 RPM redline, it will be a game changing car IMO (if they get everything else right). The weight rumour is a big "if" but the engine seems more real based on various reports.

Kingspoke

It will be more about economy than muscle!

Edmunds says: The 2015 Ford Mustang may shrink in size, largely due to regulatory pressure.

Making it smaller and not utilizing exotic materials, C.F., etc. keeps them in the Mustang price range. I doubt it would compete with a C7 or a C7 buyer would even consider it an alternative. It will remain a Pony car only a "Shetland Pony"!

michaelinmech

1. They are speaking abut the weight of the V6 mustang
2. They are overweight big time to begin with - like 3,550 for coupes and 3,650 for verts, with 6 cylinder motors
3. They are currently smaller overall than the Vette and going to be even smaller yet for 2015. At the same time the C7 Vette is larger than the C6
4. Even with a 6 cylinder, they get less than 20mpg city driving
5. The big wieght reduction will not be the same in the 'performance variants'

gthal

Maybe true and the weight they quote is the V6 without all of the weight the larger engines, upgraded suspension and chassis, etc bring. However, Ford is doing some good things these days and this could be a great car.

I wouldn't discount a Mustang because it's a Mustang. No different than the Corvette, some folks would discount it as it isn't a European performance car and look down on it. I personally would cross shop any and all awesome performance cars regardless of manufacturer, country of origin or where it is built

TTRotary

We heard similar myths about the C7 initially....

Mike Mercury

Kappa

I think their source got a little overenthusiastic compared to what other sources have been saying.

The Mustang will be smaller, but the source in the article has it coming in around the size of the Corvette and 911. I highly doubt it will end up being that small. Will it lose weight? Yes. But without the use of exotic materials ie CF and aluminum, I'm having a hard time believing the Mustang will be down around the 3200lb range. I'll be on 3350-3400lb for a base Mustang which is great IMO.

JoesC5

My Mercedes C230 Kompressor 4 door 5 passenger doesn't have a bunch of exotic materials such as CF and aluminum and it's curb weight is 3250 pounds.

NocarbutaVetteforme

Never count Ford out of the picture. There are those who say that a Mustang can't hang on the track and yet those same people are seeing tail lights of quite a few LS Boss Editions or GT500s. In fact the only ones who weren't were people in ZR1s or Z06 with Z07 package.
Ford has the money and track experience to produce a car that is plenty capable of doing what it says they can do. There is no telling how many people have bought GT500s instead of Corvettes but believe me they have. And I wouldn't be surprised at how many people have bought the ZL1 or the will buy the new Z28 instead of the Corvette. There is so much out there now to choose from performance wise that choices are difficult for the want to go fast buyer.

99C5JA1

I'm not anti-Ford or anti-Mustang by any means, but I just don't see that happening. We see companies with the budget to use every sort of super exotic and expensive materials struggling to stay under 3500lbs. The basic feature set needed in car in the Mustangs class are going to make it very hard to get much below 3600lbs.

The Mustang has never received a lot of exotic engineering or materials (though I feel it is very well engineered). Ford will have to implement fuel saving methods to comply with stricter standards. Additions like DoD and DI which, as we've seen, add weight. I'm skeptical they'll use things like carbon fiber, aluminum frame, spring form metal, aerogel, etc like GM was able to on the C7 because the Mustang has such a large price spectrum to cover. Things that would be viable on a $50,000 model would not necessarily be so on the much larger volume ~$20,000 V6 model. Sure you could have easy things like fenders made from exotic materials put on the expensive model, but that's not going to shave anywhere near what is being rumored.

I would guess that once you see the new safety gear and fuel saving additions we're looking optimistically at 3500lbs. Even if they could stay where they are with the additions (~3,600-3,700) they'll have to add, they would be doing alright. To give some perspective the Ferrari 458 tips the scales around 3440lbs , the Porsche 911 Turbo 3516lbs and the C7 Z51 3444lbs. All these cars are using exotic and expensive materials to achieve these weights. I just don't see how Ford could do significantly better with the mass market/lower cost Mustang. There's no free lunch.

gthal

Small engine and not track prepped (no heavy duty chassis stiffness, suspension strength, etc). My Kio Sportage SUV only weighs 3,200 lbs too but it doesn't mean anything. A big V8 in a body that is capable of withstanding track abuse is heavy... that then means the manufacturers have to spend a lot of time taking weight out and using lightweight and strong materials to get the weight back down. A commuter car and a track ready car are two very different beasts.

Kappa

Its a pretty small car though not a midsize like the Mustang traditionally is.

The Mustang has never been that small save for maybe the Mustang II days.

Kingspoke

No offense intended, I'm a Mustang fan! I think you perhaps read a little too much into it. I was saying it's more about meeting CAFE standards in this particular case, and a different category of cars altogether. I love the GT500 & the 302!

Stingray23

Ford is not messing around with the new Mustang. I guarantee it will be a giant killer, and not just in a straight line. I'm really looking forward to it.

sd7ss

I think you nailed it, Michael.

There's been a lot of creditable rumors that the EcoBoost 4 might be standard in the 2015 base model Mustang. It would probably be a good fit. And it might account for the weight saving rumors on that model.

For the last few years, the Mustang has been a great value at its price point. I look for that to continue for 2015 and beyond. I've owned one for the last 18 months and can vouch for the fact that Ford finally got it right. Especially the "Coyote" 5 liter engine. I mean 400 hp on regular gas, and a fairly flat torque curve with the variable quad cams. Very efficient.

Mike Mercury: Very funny! LMAO! How the hell did this thread find its way here?? Mustangs! Good Grief!!

Dave68

Hilarious!