Modded C7 Z06 (661whp Mustang) vs modded Viper TA (607whp Dynojet)
01-19-2015, 12:33 PM
#41
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Nice Viper win again. Just shows again the trap speeds from the stock Vipers are legit. Both cars are smokin' fast for what little is going into them.
As for immediatly crowning the Z as the road course champ, if I were a Vette guy I would wait for more data to come out so I didn't have to pull my foot out of my mouth a second time.
As for immediatly crowning the Z as the road course champ, if I were a Vette guy I would wait for more data to come out so I didn't have to pull my foot out of my mouth a second time.
01-19-2015, 12:44 PM
#42
Burning Brakes
Just stating the facts. 
The absolute most the mag drivers have been slower than Mero or other factory driver in the same cars is 5.2 seconds.
That still leaves over 3 seconds for the Viper to make up.
Remember Ralph called Randy scared of Vipers too, but SRT didn't offer up anyone else to drive the car. The TA still hasn't beaten the ZR1 in a same day track test. Took a private test day to barely eek out the ZR1 at Laguna. In my book, that's slower given mag drivers only get a few laps, and Randy with more laps and a race team supporting the ZR1 would have been faster too.
It's bench racing no doubt, but educated bench racing.
The absolute most the mag drivers have been slower than Mero or other factory driver in the same cars is 5.2 seconds.
That still leaves over 3 seconds for the Viper to make up.
Remember Ralph called Randy scared of Vipers too, but SRT didn't offer up anyone else to drive the car. The TA still hasn't beaten the ZR1 in a same day track test. Took a private test day to barely eek out the ZR1 at Laguna. In my book, that's slower given mag drivers only get a few laps, and Randy with more laps and a race team supporting the ZR1 would have been faster too.
It's bench racing no doubt, but educated bench racing.
The Viper owns the Laguna Seca track record over the ZR1, on worse tires to boot. What happened when they put cup tires IE ZR1's tires on the Viper? Massive 2.5 second lap time drop (great Video with Pobst):
Not discounting the Z07's wicked prowess on the track, but I think the TA 2.0 Viper will be more competition than most think.
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01-19-2015, 01:00 PM
#43
The Consigliere
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Cool run.
I'm still not getting a Viper either.
Glad it's around, tho; it's a cool car.
I keep forgetting to jump on Viper and Porsche forums and extol the virtues of the Corvette, and do so with an imperious tone to boot. Don't know what's wrong with me.
I'm still not getting a Viper either.
Glad it's around, tho; it's a cool car.
I keep forgetting to jump on Viper and Porsche forums and extol the virtues of the Corvette, and do so with an imperious tone to boot. Don't know what's wrong with me.
01-19-2015, 01:03 PM
#44
Burning Brakes
01-19-2015, 01:04 PM
#45
Yeah sure thing honey.
01-19-2015, 01:06 PM
#46
Safety Car
Anyone know what these two cars run at the dragstrip? I'm not debating which one is faster in this exhibition of acceleration... that is obvious by the results in the videos, unless you keep your eyes closed and flip a coin instead.
I would hope 660rwhp in a Z06 in winter air = 136+mph through the traps, which equates to mid-10s on street tires, or low, low-10s on race rubber.
Anything less is just... sad.
I would hope 660rwhp in a Z06 in winter air = 136+mph through the traps, which equates to mid-10s on street tires, or low, low-10s on race rubber.
Anything less is just... sad.
01-19-2015, 01:20 PM
#48
Nice Viper win again. Just shows again the trap speeds from the stock Vipers are legit. Both cars are smokin' fast for what little is going into them.
As for immediatly crowning the Z as the road course champ, if I were a Vette guy I would wait for more data to come out so I didn't have to pull my foot out of my mouth a second time.
As for immediatly crowning the Z as the road course champ, if I were a Vette guy I would wait for more data to come out so I didn't have to pull my foot out of my mouth a second time.
Stock to stock roll races.
Stock to stock drag races.
01-19-2015, 01:20 PM
#49
Safety Car
I'm not disagreeing with you, but just with a better driver 5+ seconds and the better tires 3+ seconds, you are talking a massive 8 seconds right there.
The Viper owns the Laguna Seca track record over the ZR1, on worse tires to boot. What happened when they put cup tires IE ZR1's tires on the Viper? Massive 2.5 second lap time drop (great Video with Pobst):
Not discounting the Z07's wicked prowess on the track, but I think the TA 2.0 Viper will be more competition than most think.
The Viper owns the Laguna Seca track record over the ZR1, on worse tires to boot. What happened when they put cup tires IE ZR1's tires on the Viper? Massive 2.5 second lap time drop (great Video with Pobst):
Not discounting the Z07's wicked prowess on the track, but I think the TA 2.0 Viper will be more competition than most think.
Three seconds is a big guesstimate. Like I said less than that to Pirelli slicks at Laguna. I might give you 2 seconds if that at VIR.
The Viper had an independent test day, notice the the GTS picked up 1.5 seconds from the same day test with the ZR1 to the private test with SRT. Those are not equal testing grounds.
What happens with GM and a private test and calling out Randy Pobst?
That goes both ways.
I do agree, that the 2.0 will be serious competition. I think SRT will want to return the favor on the Z07's release by putting spoiling the Z06's track intro. If the TA 2.0 comes out with Trofeo R or MPSC, it's going to be a serious battle. I love both cars for different reasons, so I just like the competition.
01-19-2015, 01:23 PM
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01-19-2015, 01:30 PM
#52
Both cars are nice and fast as hell. Id still take the vet over ten vipers. With that said am I the only one that seen the z06 slowly start to creep back towards then end of the second and third races right before the viper let off?
01-19-2015, 01:36 PM
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01-19-2015, 01:36 PM
#55
Burning Brakes
I appreciate mature discussion that doesn't dissolve into insults. I like to debate.
Three seconds is a big guesstimate. Like I said less than that to Pirelli slicks at Laguna. I might give you 2 seconds if that at VIR.
The Viper had an independent test day, notice the the GTS picked up 1.5 seconds from the same day test with the ZR1 to the private test with SRT. Those are not equal testing grounds.
What happens with GM and a private test and calling out Randy Pobst?
That goes both ways.
I do agree, that the 2.0 will be serious competition. I think SRT will want to return the favor on the Z07's release by putting spoiling the Z06's track intro. If the TA 2.0 comes out with Trofeo R or MPSC, it's going to be a serious battle. I love both cars for different reasons, so I just like the competition.
Three seconds is a big guesstimate. Like I said less than that to Pirelli slicks at Laguna. I might give you 2 seconds if that at VIR.
The Viper had an independent test day, notice the the GTS picked up 1.5 seconds from the same day test with the ZR1 to the private test with SRT. Those are not equal testing grounds.
What happens with GM and a private test and calling out Randy Pobst?
That goes both ways.
I do agree, that the 2.0 will be serious competition. I think SRT will want to return the favor on the Z07's release by putting spoiling the Z06's track intro. If the TA 2.0 comes out with Trofeo R or MPSC, it's going to be a serious battle. I love both cars for different reasons, so I just like the competition.
01-19-2015, 01:41 PM
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01-19-2015, 01:44 PM
#57
Le Mans Master
01-19-2015, 01:47 PM
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01-19-2015, 01:50 PM
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