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Old 10-18-2015, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NateDieselF4i
Chevy really stepping it up. Impressive for 37k.

Guess the ball is in Ford's court now. Can't wait to see what these GT350R's do at the track (road course)

2016 Camaro

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review

Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.9 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 13.1 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 25.1 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.0 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.3 sec @ 116 mph
Top speed (governor limited, C/D est): 165 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 147 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g

Car and driver 2014 C7 Z51

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

Zero to 60 mph: 3.9
Zero to 100 mph: 8.7
Zero to 130 mph: 15.1 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.5 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 11.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 10.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.2 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (C/D est): 190
Braking, 70-0 mph: 146 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 1.08 g
Ummm the c7 still accelerates better(its close due to the same engine but the c7 is still faster) and look at that skidpad .98 vs 1.08. Ya on the track they are not in the same league. All that and the c7 is a much nicer looking inside and out as well as higher quality.
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:01 AM
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not taking anything away from the Camaro or the hell cats or the GT350s but none of them are in the purchase equation for me vs the vette, first I don't need a back seat and second none do it for me in the looks dept compared to the C7, heck for me you can even keep the prev gen vettes, the C7 won me over as a "total package" performance, looks, interior, it just trips all the right triggers
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by theboom
Ummm the c7 still accelerates better(its close due to the same engine but the c7 is still faster) and look at that skidpad .98 vs 1.08. Ya on the track they are not in the same league. All that and the c7 is a much nicer looking inside and out as well as higher quality.
Ummm remind me where I said I was trading in my Z51? You don't need to sell me on the advantages of the Corvette. I understand that. This thread wasn't about a which to buy obviously. Did you read my original post? It's about Chevy stepping up, and ford etc needing to a response.

I know 1/4 mile times aren't everything and with mods its a moot point often, there will always be ford / Chevy / mopar guys but it's still bragging rights. And plenty of bench top racers. Plus it's fun to talk about.

I wonder how many people on here actually take their corvette to the track? I bet it's a small portion, but you still like having the aura of being a track machine.

I do track. Summit point WV and VIR soon.

As I said I'll be anxious to see what the SS can do. Even the lower trim models have more guts than the Ford equivalent. I suspect Ford will make some changes soon.

Good lord 15Stingray look at all those toys. You order the hellcat charger or challenger?

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Old 10-19-2015, 10:17 AM
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Ford has done a good job building a frenzy over the GT 350; excellent marketing.
They sure have, and I'd be interested in the GT-350R at list price, but you probably will have to pay a $10-20K buyers premium to get one with the number's they'll build.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:21 AM
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We spent the last two weeks driving a rented Camaro around New Mexico, Arizona and Utah and were not impressed with the way the Camaro drives. Granted, it was a 5th gen rental, but it was a 2015 with 11,000 miles on it and it felt very loose compared to the Corvette. I'm not sure how much they can tighten up the 6th gen, but it's definitely not as tight a ride.

The 2016 convertible is a good looking car though.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:35 AM
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The new Z28 has to be a killer considering how great the last gen Z28 is. I still believe the 5th gen Z28 will give the GT350r a tough time.
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:36 AM
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I really like them. I wouldn't trade my C7 for it, but they're very nice. I think the interior is great too. I hate the mustang's interior.

If I didn't use the chevy volt to it's full potential (and I do) I would have considered a vert V6 cylinder
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:48 AM
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It's great that the new Camaro is much better in all aspects than the previous generation. I just hope that theres not a million of them on the road like there is now, but I'm sure I'll be wrong. It always tends to be the Camaro and older Mustang generation owners that always want to race. The newer Mustangs are looking pretty sharp looking and the owners seem to be more mature.
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:56 AM
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For Vette and Camaro lovers out there.If you don't have quite enough money for the Vette,
Maybe purchase the Camaro.It looks like it's nearly the same power.
Us Corvette owners might need to add to our engines to keep the Camaeo behind us.
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Old 10-19-2015, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by thrilled
For Vette and Camaro lovers out there.If you don't have quite enough money for the Vette,
Maybe purchase the Camaro.It looks like it's nearly the same power.
Us Corvette owners might need to add to our engines to keep the Camaeo behind us.

According to the numbers... nope, the stingray is still faster. Also, at-speeds or on a track, the stingray will eat that car up.
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Old 10-19-2015, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernest_T
We spent the last two weeks driving a rented Camaro around New Mexico, Arizona and Utah and were not impressed with the way the Camaro drives. Granted, it was a 5th gen rental, but it was a 2015 with 11,000 miles on it and it felt very loose compared to the Corvette. I'm not sure how much they can tighten up the 6th gen, but it's definitely not as tight a ride.

The 2016 convertible is a good looking car though.
Let me get this straight. You're comparing a 2015 stripped down V6 rental fleet mule that's been beat to $hit for 11k miles to a 2016 SS with an LT1 motor, electro-mechanical shocks, 4 computer controlled driving modes and an 8 sp transmission???
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Old 10-19-2015, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by thrilled
For Vette and Camaro lovers out there.If you don't have quite enough money for the Vette,
Maybe purchase the Camaro.It looks like it's nearly the same power.
Us Corvette owners might need to add to our engines to keep the Camaeo behind us.
The SS Camaro has always been, in my opinion, the "budget Corvette." As the OP said, no need to get all butthurt over the posted facts, everyone knows the Corvette still outperforms the SS and no one is asking to sell your Corvette and buy a Camaro. Good grief the superiority complex drives me freakin bonkers sometimes...

I have owned a 98 Z28, fiance used to drive a ZL1 and now has a 1LE so you can say we are both Corvette AND Camaro enthusiasts in my household.

Glad to see that the Camaro is continuing to win the pony car wars! Excellent car for the money.
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:02 PM
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I don't know why there is such contempt for Camaros on this forum.
It's a four passenger car built on a lower budget. It's not a direct competitor to the Vette.

But I'll tell you what, a well driven Camaro will wipe the floor with a Corvette driven by an average driver. I have seen this happen on many weekends, so if any of you snooty C7 drivers plan to attend SCCA or NCCC events and a Camaro shows up, I would be careful about thumbing your nose at him. You might get embarrassed.
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:50 PM
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I was a Camaro owner for years 67 and 88 iroc-z but I don't care much for the new design, glad the numbers are up though
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Old 10-19-2015, 04:18 PM
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Corvettes and Camaros shouldn't be but do compete with each other. Last years Z28 was solidly in the C7 arena with price and performance. Then toss in family seating as an added benefit. With the "pony war" in full swing GM will not weaken the Camaro's performance. The competition is more about sales more than anything else. That question that a Corvette buyer doesn't want to hear ..."Ok honey; where are you gonna put the kids?" dahhhh??? It has a V8, 2 doors, 4 seats and costs less......a Camaro...
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Originally Posted by Kevova
Corvettes and Camaros shouldn't be but do compete with each other. Last years Z28 was solidly in the C7 arena with price and performance. Then toss in family seating as an added benefit. With the "pony war" in full swing GM will not weaken the Camaro's performance. The competition is more about sales more than anything else. That question that a Corvette buyer doesn't want to hear ..."Ok honey; where are you gonna put the kids?" dahhhh??? It has a V8, 2 doors, 4 seats and costs less......a Camaro...
I believe with the times of the camaro mirroring the corvette,I wouldn't
Doubt sales for the C7 will slow down and for the Camaro pick up.
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Originally Posted by Kevova
Corvettes and Camaros shouldn't be but do compete with each other. Last years Z28 was solidly in the C7 arena with price and performance. Then toss in family seating as an added benefit. With the "pony war" in full swing GM will not weaken the Camaro's performance. The competition is more about sales more than anything else. That question that a Corvette buyer doesn't want to hear ..."Ok honey; where are you gonna put the kids?" dahhhh??? It has a V8, 2 doors, 4 seats and costs less......a Camaro...
It's funny that the Z/28 is in the realm of the Corvette. From what my dealer has told me, their Z/28's don't sell very well. In fact, they're not even allowed to sell them anymore unless they're specifically ordered. They told me that with a price that high, most people will just buy a Corvette. Who wants a 75k+ Camaro? Of course most people would call bs and say they're just trying to make you buy the more expensive Corvette. I've repeatedly been back to get service, etc. and I continuously see the same Z/28's on the lot. I just wonder if they'll sell these again or if they're just a one off special edition type of car.
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Old 10-19-2015, 04:32 PM
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What just boggles my mind is the regular 2016 SS Camaro performance figures seem to meet and/or beat the GT350's!
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Old 10-19-2015, 04:37 PM
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sweet!!! If I had the money I'd have a HELLCAT next to the Vette as well.
The Camaro is a different car..feel wise. I much prefer the Vette regardless of Horspower..
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Old 10-19-2015, 05:31 PM
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I did not say the price on a Z28 made sense other than to keep production numbers low. Hellcats and Shelby's and C7's are a bargain in comparison. The 1969 ZL1 camaros sat on lots sometimes for years
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