2017 LT4 ZL1 runs 7:29.60 at the Nurburgring
10-24-2016, 06:13 PM
#41
Team Owner
Answer that question before we can go further.
Last edited by JoesC5; 10-24-2016 at 06:14 PM.
10-24-2016, 06:18 PM
#42
Melting Slicks
LOL, I saw this coming.
10-24-2016, 06:22 PM
#43
Melting Slicks
10-24-2016, 06:26 PM
#44
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Each engineering team (not just Corvette, but all of them) make the expensive trip the N'Ring (staff, parts, cars, etc) for R&D. Milford is an excellent track. So are a lot of the other tracks in the states. The N'Ring offers a neat and tidy all-in-one place for them to continue R&D for Europe.
Originally Posted by Jim Mero
Friends and collogues always forward me forum inquiries about a fast laps. As we have always said, the fast lap is a secondary priority. The mission primary objective is to complete the tuning of the car for European roads and European driving habits. Having said that, I live for a fast lap opportunity.
10-24-2016, 06:40 PM
#45
Drifting
Thread Starter
100% wrong. On all counts.
Each engineering team (not just Corvette, but all of them) make the expensive trip the N'Ring (staff, parts, cars, etc) for R&D. Milford is an excellent track. So are a lot of the other tracks in the states. The N'Ring offers a neat and tidy all-in-one place for them to continue R&D for Europe.
So, now that you understand that marketing, fast laps, etc, are all secondary to the R&D of the car: what R&D reason would the Corvette team have to go back to the 'Ring after last year's run?
Each engineering team (not just Corvette, but all of them) make the expensive trip the N'Ring (staff, parts, cars, etc) for R&D. Milford is an excellent track. So are a lot of the other tracks in the states. The N'Ring offers a neat and tidy all-in-one place for them to continue R&D for Europe.
So, now that you understand that marketing, fast laps, etc, are all secondary to the R&D of the car: what R&D reason would the Corvette team have to go back to the 'Ring after last year's run?
Let me tell you why your response is rubbish.
If what you are saying is true and R&D is the primary reason any manufacturer goes to the Nurburgring - 1st - that would be extremely expensive as they would have to be there year round - and 2) those cars that don't go to NBR are not R&D'd?
Lol.
Manufacturers have been taking their cars to NBR for testing true - but the pay off for them is the NBR time. It is used for marketing for many many years. As I stated - they already have Milford PROVING grounds for the majority of their R&D.
Again...next question...
10-24-2016, 06:41 PM
#46
Burning Brakes
Seemed like he was fighting the car a bit the whole way, even on teh straights he was making a lot of steering corrections. As a comparison watch a novice driver in a GT3 running a 7:33 in traffic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS1UfQFyi7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS1UfQFyi7Y
10-24-2016, 06:46 PM
#47
Team Owner
Talladega is huge at 2.66 miles(I've driven around it and have been to the races at it) but nothing compared to this high speed oval at 7.5 miles.
I also use to visit their test faculty in Manitou Springs, CO, where they did brake testing(it's closed now).
They can do any testing right here in the good ole USA that they can in Europe, so the Ring is not needed for "testing", but they can't get the Press here that they can get by driving at the Ring.
Last edited by JoesC5; 10-24-2016 at 07:07 PM.
10-24-2016, 06:56 PM
#49
Allow me to solve the mystery for everyone. GM has decided not to report a time for Nurburgring because they cannot best the time of C6 ZO7 and C6 ZR1. Simple as that. Had they produced a better time, they would be bragging about it.
Period. End of story. The C7 is just more proof that we have reached maximum performance capability with the front engine rear wheel drive configuration.
Period. End of story. The C7 is just more proof that we have reached maximum performance capability with the front engine rear wheel drive configuration.
Last edited by Paulchristian; 10-24-2016 at 07:03 PM.
10-24-2016, 07:20 PM
#50
Race Director
10-24-2016, 07:41 PM
#54
Le Mans Master
This was bound to happen when another GM vehicle posted a hero run at the Ring. It stings even more that it is the Chevy stablemate Camaro at half the price and not some expensive Caddy.
Great Job Team Corvette. Two different runs with at least 4 Z06s and a broken promise of results being posted "soon" almost two years ago. Glad they are "Very happy" with the mystery results.
What a giant clusterf*ck and a profound let down.
Also it is year 4 of production for the base C7 Stingray which also has no Nurburgring times. Guess the Camaro is top priority for GM now.
Edit: Also IB4TL or the thread getting moved to there cars.
Great Job Team Corvette. Two different runs with at least 4 Z06s and a broken promise of results being posted "soon" almost two years ago. Glad they are "Very happy" with the mystery results.
What a giant clusterf*ck and a profound let down.
Also it is year 4 of production for the base C7 Stingray which also has no Nurburgring times. Guess the Camaro is top priority for GM now.
Edit: Also IB4TL or the thread getting moved to there cars.
Last edited by Hirohawa; 10-24-2016 at 07:44 PM.
10-24-2016, 07:51 PM
#56
Instructor
Carry on.
10-24-2016, 07:52 PM
#57
Its reputation as being THE track for testing handling and durability has been known for decades.
The idea is if a car can survive The Ring, it should survive the street.
what R&D reason would the Corvette team have to go back to the 'Ring after last year's run?
Last edited by sunsalem; 10-24-2016 at 07:53 PM.
10-24-2016, 07:58 PM
#59
All the crying about the Z06 on these Ring treads is just pathetic at this point. All talk all BS and nothing more. Maybe the time was slow? Maybe the Z06 overheated? Maybe maybe maybe. Amazing that one track time has so many turned inside out. GM didnt the release for what ever reason. So what.
Last edited by GP1224; 10-24-2016 at 08:10 PM.
10-24-2016, 08:16 PM
#60
Drifting
Thread Starter
All the crying about the Z06 on these Ring treads is just pathetic at this point. All talk all BS and nothing more. Maybe the time was slow? Maybe the Z06 overheated? Maybe maybe maybe. Amazing that one track time has so many turned inside out. GM didnt the release for what ever reason. So what.
Keep fanboiing though.
It's awesome.