Corvettes got a problem
Melting Slicks
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Dodge puts a 2.7 liter supercharger on the Demon and unleashes a monster on the world, and GM announces a 65th anniversary "carbon package" for the Corvette.
I'm embarrassed for GM, I really am.....
I'm embarrassed for GM, I really am.....
Burning Brakes
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Honestly I am not overly impressed with these outrageous hp number cars. Really how much is enough? Is 900 better than 840? It just seems that we continue to see more and more horsepower but then all the nannies are ampted up to restrict the power to make the car actually usable on the street and by average people. I'm more impressed with a car that is the full package and designed to use it's power. The Viper VooDoo fits into the full package category and the ZR1 will as well. Those two are impressive the demon not so much.
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Honestly I am not overly impressed with these outrageous hp number cars. Really how much is enough? Is 900 better than 840? It just seems that we continue to see more and more horsepower but then all the nannies are ampted up to restrict the power to make the car actually usable on the street and by average people. I'm more impressed with a car that is the full package and designed to use it's power. The Viper VooDoo fits into the full package category and the ZR1 will as well. Those two are impressive the demon not so much.
Dodge already made a 360hp (net) Hemi Dart back in the 60s, even that was barely driveable, no need to repeat that nonsense. Or a ZL1 Camaro if you prefer, I suppose.
I don't know how people manage to take the release of an 840hp car and complain about it. I lived through the 80s when the Beretta GT was big news with 210hp.
These are the good old days and you won't ruin them for me! :-)
I'm embarrassed for GM, I really am.....
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Burning Brakes
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I will be very very impressed if it is possible to actually launch consistently 0-60 in 2.3. Doesn't that seem a bit unrealistic for a rear wheel drive front engine car? Have to wait and see.
Burning Brakes
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So you want a slower car that's more dangerous? A less powerful car with no nannies?
Dodge already made a 360hp (net) Hemi Dart back in the 60s, even that was barely driveable, no need to repeat that nonsense. Or a ZL1 Camaro if you prefer, I suppose.
I don't know how people manage to take the release of an 840hp car and complain about it. I lived through the 80s when the Beretta GT was big news with 210hp.
These are the good old days and you won't ruin them for me! :-)
I don't think my 650hp, mid-10-second Corvette has anything to apologize for. But the sticker package? I agree.
Dodge already made a 360hp (net) Hemi Dart back in the 60s, even that was barely driveable, no need to repeat that nonsense. Or a ZL1 Camaro if you prefer, I suppose.
I don't know how people manage to take the release of an 840hp car and complain about it. I lived through the 80s when the Beretta GT was big news with 210hp.
These are the good old days and you won't ruin them for me! :-)
I don't think my 650hp, mid-10-second Corvette has anything to apologize for. But the sticker package? I agree.
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Burning Brakes
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You're right it actually doesn't come with traction control or active handling. It's got magic tires and physics bending algorithms built into the transmission. In all seriousness it does appear to have some trick tech to help launching at the track which seems to be what it is primarily engineered to accomplish. I suppose this is Dodge's answer to Chevy's COPO Camaro. Arguably a better answer in that at least you can drive the Challenger to the drags and home again. Just not something I would consider buying.
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You're right it actually doesn't come with traction control or active handling. It's got magic tires and physics bending algorithms built into the transmission. In all seriousness it does appear to have some trick tech to help launching at the track which seems to be what it is primarily engineered to accomplish. I suppose this is Dodge's answer to Chevy's COPO Camaro. Arguably a better answer in that at least you can drive the Challenger to the drags and home again. Just not something I would consider buying.
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Melting Slicks
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So when do Dodge owners start complaining they want to drive on the street without drag tires? Or they wear too fast with a 00 tread-wear rating?
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You are missing my point. Why continue to add more and more horsepower when we already have cars with far more power than can actually be put down (nannies effectively neutralize all that extra go power for 90% of the cars use). Ya I guess it's cool and maybe great for bragging but not very innovative. The Viper VooDoo has something like 800+ hp too but at least that has an aero package and tires designed to keep it planted for a little hope of being able to stay on the road.
I think of this car basically as a COPO Camaro or BOSS Mustang (whatever they call their version) but set up for street production. I would guess the point of this one is "generate headlines" more than anything!
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I think it's really cool that Dodge is coming out with a 9 second street legal car. That being said, I'll never own one for these 3 reasons.
1. Only 3000 units will be sold in the U.S., so I'm sure it'll be outside my price range.
2. I never go to the strip. If I somehow were able to afford one, I would be too tempted to use it's raw power on the street. With my luck, I would end up in jail the 1st time I punked some would be challenger.
3. I don't like automatic transmissions. I like to shift my own gears.
Hey, more power to the 3000 people that get their hands on one. It's just not for me though.
1. Only 3000 units will be sold in the U.S., so I'm sure it'll be outside my price range.
2. I never go to the strip. If I somehow were able to afford one, I would be too tempted to use it's raw power on the street. With my luck, I would end up in jail the 1st time I punked some would be challenger.
3. I don't like automatic transmissions. I like to shift my own gears.
Hey, more power to the 3000 people that get their hands on one. It's just not for me though.
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Melting Slicks
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There is not a stock C5 corvette that will do a 2.3 sec 0 to 60 time on this earth. Even a modded car because they were all manuals would have a very hard time doing it. Now a stock c5 ZO6 having a 2.3 60ft time is understandable.