Corvettes got a problem
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Here it is.you can see it at Zeroto60times.com. Non z06. 2002 Vette Lingenfeler 427
Twin Turbo 0-60 1.97 1/4 mile 9.1
I was answering the person saying that time couldn't be registered under 3.2 seconds.
I wasn't talking about stock or modifications. I was strictly talking about 0-60 times
Go back To Mrc 100.
Twin Turbo 0-60 1.97 1/4 mile 9.1
I was answering the person saying that time couldn't be registered under 3.2 seconds.
I wasn't talking about stock or modifications. I was strictly talking about 0-60 times
Go back To Mrc 100.
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The butthurt is strong in this thread.... very pathetic that people can't appreciate the great strides American cars are taking. I giggle at the expected excuse ... "Until it hits a road coarse" or has to turn comments. Dodge made it very clear that this car was built to be the fastest stock production 1/4 car in the world, which it is, they also made it clear that it was built to be a great daily driver.
Why can't people just be happy the car is American?
This site has well over 20 pages of "fastlist" 1/4 times dedicated in the C5-C7 sections of this website... it only has only ONE "lap time fastlist' and that is in the C7 section it's a whopping 4 pages
.... yea sure... people don't care about 1/4 times
The first stock production 9 second full warranty car ever made, full power/ a/c , that you can load up kids in the back seat if you wish.. yea how horrible... such sour grapes. I wonder how many pages this will reach before it gets closed.
Why can't people just be happy the car is American?
This site has well over 20 pages of "fastlist" 1/4 times dedicated in the C5-C7 sections of this website... it only has only ONE "lap time fastlist' and that is in the C7 section it's a whopping 4 pages
.... yea sure... people don't care about 1/4 times The first stock production 9 second full warranty car ever made, full power/ a/c , that you can load up kids in the back seat if you wish.. yea how horrible... such sour grapes. I wonder how many pages this will reach before it gets closed.
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You are missing my point. Why continue to add more and more horsepower when we already have cars with far more power than can actually be put down (nannies effectively neutralize all that extra go power for 90% of the cars use). Ya I guess it's cool and maybe great for bragging but not very innovative. The Viper VooDoo has something like 800+ hp too but at least that has an aero package and tires designed to keep it planted for a little hope of being able to stay on the road.
The gen 5 Viper ACR extreme is the car you are talking about, and like all generations of Viper share the same motor/trans and Hp which is 640 hp, not 800, however you are correct about the aero package/tires/suspension/breaks.
Just trying to clear it up for you.
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It's an attempt to justify their purchase.
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The butthurt is strong in this thread.... very pathetic that people can't appreciate the great strides American cars are taking. I giggle at the expected excuse ... "Until it hits a road coarse" or has to turn comments. Dodge made it very clear that this car was built to be the fastest stock production 1/4 car in the world, which it is, they also made it clear that it was built to be a great daily driver.
Why can't people just be happy the car is American?
This site has well over 20 pages of "fastlist" 1/4 times dedicated in the C5-C7 sections of this website... it only has a "lap time fastlist' in the C7 section and it's a whopping 4 pages .... yea sure... people don't care about 1/4 times
The first stock production 9 second full warranty car ever made, full power/ a/c , that you can load up kids in the back seat if you wish.. yea how horrible... such sour grapes. I wonder how many pages this will reach before it gets closed.
Why can't people just be happy the car is American?
This site has well over 20 pages of "fastlist" 1/4 times dedicated in the C5-C7 sections of this website... it only has a "lap time fastlist' in the C7 section and it's a whopping 4 pages
.... yea sure... people don't care about 1/4 times The first stock production 9 second full warranty car ever made, full power/ a/c , that you can load up kids in the back seat if you wish.. yea how horrible... such sour grapes. I wonder how many pages this will reach before it gets closed.
I agree with ALL of this. I think its GREAT the USA auto horsepower wars a back. Its about time. Do you remember the mid 1970s and 1980s ?? '75 Corvette had under 200 HP (I owned one)..... Auto companies thought decals and spoilers made cars go faster. Does anyone remember how ugly and slow the '79 Trans Am was (with its Oldsmobile motor). How about the infamous Chevelle becoming the Laguna Type S3 ??? What the heck was that supposed to be? AND don't forget the Mustang II or the late '70s Road Runner/Volary (I think it was called) with a slant 6, a far cry from their 440s and Hemi motors.... Late '70s and 80s Camaros gaining a ton of weight and losing horsepower at the same time. 8.5 compression motors being the norm. Nobody wanted these cars but the Big Three kept making them. I think it's GREAT what Dodge did with the Demon........ I can't wait to see how Ford and Chevy respond (and they WILL respond).. CAFE regs are gone and the EPA won't be around long. The door is wide open..... 
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You're right, I did, sorry. I think a lot of it is that power from launch has to be controlled and limited but can be brought in later. Having 1000hp halfway through third is manageable, but it's not easy to launch it!
I think of this car basically as a COPO Camaro or BOSS Mustang (whatever they call their version) but set up for street production. I would guess the point of this one is "generate headlines" more than anything!
I think of this car basically as a COPO Camaro or BOSS Mustang (whatever they call their version) but set up for street production. I would guess the point of this one is "generate headlines" more than anything!
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You're right, I did, sorry. I think a lot of it is that power from launch has to be controlled and limited but can be brought in later. Having 1000hp halfway through third is manageable, but it's not easy to launch it!
I think of this car basically as a COPO Camaro or BOSS Mustang (whatever they call their version) but set up for street production. I would guess the point of this one is "generate headlines" more than anything!
I think of this car basically as a COPO Camaro or BOSS Mustang (whatever they call their version) but set up for street production. I would guess the point of this one is "generate headlines" more than anything!
Burning Brakes
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I have a concern in the back of my mind about government intervention, especially considering the hyper sensitive PC environment coupled by gov over reach we see regularly these days. As we continue to see more and more power added to these cars at what point does a high speed accident draw the attention of the gov? Then we'll be in the ****. Regulations on hp output for street cars for 'safety'. That slope will be real slippery.
Remember it is always someone else fault. It couldn't possibly be the operator of the 800hp 2 ton missile....nope its the deep pocketed manufacture ..... we have to regulate ......
Remember it is always someone else fault. It couldn't possibly be the operator of the 800hp 2 ton missile....nope its the deep pocketed manufacture ..... we have to regulate ......
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It is not dodges answer to the copo Camaro, you cannot even register a copo Camaro let alone drive it on the street 
, stereo blasting, a/c on with the kids in the back seat in eco mode copo Camaro my butt... poor comparison , it's funny how the people who claim to have no interest can't keep out of the demon threads.
, stereo blasting, a/c on with the kids in the back seat in eco mode copo Camaro my butt... poor comparison , it's funny how the people who claim to have no interest can't keep out of the demon threads.
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cool car for less than 100 grand. See what you spend to get a car that fast and then no manufactures warranty and not as reliable. I am sure it is limited in top speed but what would it run with 840 HP and some good tires? 215? I forgot the basic formula? I read specs but didn't see weight with no seats? Hey where else can you buy a front and rear seat for two bucks?
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Very cool car. People that think the 60s were the golden age of performance, please take off the nostalgia goggles. Not just this demon but the fact that a gear head can bust their butt and stash away a few pay checks, pick up a cheap beater car like an old foxbody Mustang or F body, and make a car way faster than anything ever offered back then and sometimes faster than the new stuff offered. I think the "butt hurt" is more than likely due to the premise of the thread title.
This isn't a problem for Corvette, they're different segments, Dodge is just sealing the deal on the four door sedan segment. Saying this is a problem for Corvette is also saying it's a problem for Viper, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, or whoever else, because this thing is going to be a freight train-length puller on pretty much any brand I mentioned on the street.
This isn't a problem for Corvette, they're different segments, Dodge is just sealing the deal on the four door sedan segment. Saying this is a problem for Corvette is also saying it's a problem for Viper, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, or whoever else, because this thing is going to be a freight train-length puller on pretty much any brand I mentioned on the street.
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The butthurt is strong in this thread.... very pathetic that people can't appreciate the great strides American cars are taking. I giggle at the expected excuse ... "Until it hits a road coarse" or has to turn comments. Dodge made it very clear that this car was built to be the fastest stock production 1/4 car in the world, which it is, they also made it clear that it was built to be a great daily driver.
Why can't people just be happy the car is American?
This site has well over 20 pages of "fastlist" 1/4 times dedicated in the C5-C7 sections of this website... it only has only ONE "lap time fastlist' and that is in the C7 section it's a whopping 4 pages .... yea sure... people don't care about 1/4 times
The first stock production 9 second full warranty car ever made, full power/ a/c , that you can load up kids in the back seat if you wish.. yea how horrible... such sour grapes. I wonder how many pages this will reach before it gets closed.
Why can't people just be happy the car is American?
This site has well over 20 pages of "fastlist" 1/4 times dedicated in the C5-C7 sections of this website... it only has only ONE "lap time fastlist' and that is in the C7 section it's a whopping 4 pages
.... yea sure... people don't care about 1/4 times The first stock production 9 second full warranty car ever made, full power/ a/c , that you can load up kids in the back seat if you wish.. yea how horrible... such sour grapes. I wonder how many pages this will reach before it gets closed.
I think people care about 1/4 mile times as you pointed out but people that are Corvette fans probably "prefer" a little more of a all around performance car. Like good 1/4 mile times, decent 0-60, breaking and ability to handle curves.
BTW I would not have even commented on this thread if it was not originally posted in the C7 forum.
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Why are you so, to use your word, "butthurt" that everyone doesn't love this car and agree with your opinion? Geez grow up dude (btw - saying butthurt makes you sound like an eight year old) Remember having different opinions used to be the American way but now people like you have to scream and shout if anyone dares to have a different opinion. Try to understand someone else's point of view for a change and you just might learn something. Relax you might live a little longer.
I think people care about 1/4 mile times as you pointed out but people that are Corvette fans probably "prefer" a little more of a all around performance car. Like good 1/4 mile times, decent 0-60, breaking and ability to handle curves.
BTW I would not have even commented on this thread if it was not originally posted in the C7 forum.
I think people care about 1/4 mile times as you pointed out but people that are Corvette fans probably "prefer" a little more of a all around performance car. Like good 1/4 mile times, decent 0-60, breaking and ability to handle curves.
BTW I would not have even commented on this thread if it was not originally posted in the C7 forum.
The street is not a road coarse.
Can you find one posted street race in "Mexico" where people are taking curves? The demon will break great, handle beyond most street drivers capabilities as far as acceleration times it is the best in the word.
I'm a corvette fan and owner and I think a car company(regardless who it is) should be praised, in this case dodge is the one who has raised the bar pretty high...fastest production muscle car in history is an accomplishment, what they did took *****, I would love to see other manufacturers do this.