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Old 04-17-2018, 02:31 PM
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https://www.f150forum.com/f118/2017-...374578/index7/

Seems like Ford customer service can suck sometimes, too.

And, to top it off, there's a recall on some F150s with the A10 for unintended movement because of a defective pin in the linkage.
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I’m sure it will have teething issues. BTW, the 10 speed auto was developed by Ford and GM.
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Chevy's customer service is not much better (if it is even better).
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Did I take a wrong turn into a Ford forum?
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I have the A10 in my 17 Raptor. I love the truck and haven't had any issues after 17k miles. However I personally feel 10 gears is a bit unnecessary. The gearing is just way to close and shifts a bit too much especially in traffic when it's stop and go. A lot of time I go to manual mode just to avoid it. I can't imagine it in the Camaro. It must be for their CAFE requirements.
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We rented 2 new Escalade ESV's back in February for a trip a group of us took out to Vail. From Denver International up the mountain I found the 10 speed to be seamless, was also nice to have some extra cogs when using engine braking on the trip back down. I have a 2015 Denali with the 8 speed that I just drove out to Copper mountain 2 weeks ago. I find the 10 speed to be smoother shifting and also a bit advantageous in the fuel economy department. As far as actual acceleration performance, didn't notice much difference.
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Originally Posted by saleen556
I have the A10 in my 17 Raptor. I love the truck and haven't had any issues after 17k miles. However I personally feel 10 gears is a bit unnecessary. The gearing is just way to close and shifts a bit too much especially in traffic when it's stop and go. A lot of time I go to manual mode just to avoid it. I can't imagine it in the Camaro. It must be for their CAFE requirements.
Wife drives a 2017 Expedition with the 6 speed 3.5 ecoboost. I drive a 2017 F150 with same engine and the A10. I much prefer the 6 speed. Even though the 10 shifts smooth it tends to get into high gear to early and then the driveline vibrates. the A10 is better for an extra 2 mpg and is quicker overall. But the 6 speed rocks.
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Wife drives a 2017 Expedition with the 6 speed 3.5 ecoboost. I drive a 2017 F150 with same engine and the A10. I much prefer the 6 speed. Even though the 10 shifts smooth it tends to get into high gear to early and then the driveline vibrates. the A10 is better for an extra 2 mpg and is quicker overall. But the 6 speed rocks.
I don't have any vibration. Just feel 5 overdrives is unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by saleen556

Just feel 5 overdrives is unnecessary.
Are there criteria that differntiate what an overdrive gear is? I agree it seems ridiculous. Kinda like how razor companies kept pimping their new great razor that had more blades than the competition.....
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Originally Posted by Baltimoron
Are there criteria that differntiate what an overdrive gear is? I agree it seems ridiculous. Kinda like how razor companies kept pimping their new great razor that had more blades than the competition.....

Technically an overdrive gear is anything less than a 1:1 ratio. The ability to keep the ratios close it what makes them perform better from an acceleration and economy standpoint. While I know this thread is originally about the A10 in the F-150, here is an article from GM showing the side by side difference between the A8 and A10. It's an interesting read.

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...0speed-gm.html
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The A10 is awesome. Best torque converter transmission out there.

Very impressive even with a few early issues as discussed.

This is a technical marvel by GM...and Ford..

The camaro zL1 with the ten speed is an amazing achievement
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Originally Posted by MVR 155
Technically an overdrive gear is anything less than a 1:1 ratio. The ability to keep the ratios close it what makes them perform better from an acceleration and economy standpoint. While I know this thread is originally about the A10 in the F-150, here is an article from GM showing the side by side difference between the A8 and A10. It's an interesting read.

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...0speed-gm.html
Good info! Thanks!
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