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Old 08-31-2018, 06:34 PM
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A local guy autocrosses an older (heh...) McLaren MP4-12C. It's an impressive car. Draws the obvious on-lookers each time it shows up. Despite it's sporting prowess he still struggles against a good chunk of drivers in Miatas and the last time he was there a Focus RS set a time that was over two & a half seconds quicker than his best in the McLaren (to be fair though the Focus RS is a monster of a hatchback).
Oh yeah. 99% of the amateur drivers are not able to probably even achieve 4/10 of what a supercar like McLaren is capable of (myself included, not trying to talk down to anyone). And this extends to virtually any car on the road....including dare I say Corvettes as well as Porsches and BMWs, etc. etc.

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Pro driver in a Ford Fiest ST beats avg Joe in a C7 Stingray with mild mods.

There are many stories I've read of track day instructors embarrassing people driving cars that are MUCH more expensive. A recent youtube video I saw had an instructor drive a MINI Cooper just as fast as an amateur enthusiast driving a F430.

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Old 08-31-2018, 06:50 PM
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I would have made time for that test drive.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7 View Post
Oh yeah. 99% of the amateur drivers are not able to probably even achieve 4/10 of what a supercar like McLaren is capable of (myself included, not trying to talk down to anyone). And this extends to virtually any car on the road....including dare I say Corvettes as well as Porsches and BMWs, etc. etc.

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Pro driver in a Ford Fiest ST beats avg Joe in a C7 Stingray with mild mods.

There are many stories I've read of track day instructors embarrassing people driving cars that are MUCH more expensive. A recent youtube video I saw had an instructor drive a MINI Cooper just as fast as an amateur enthusiast driving a F430.
Agreed totally. Any1 who tracks knows this.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:43 PM
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I was recently in London and became super interested in McLarens after seeing so many of them on the street. I've been doing some reading and stopped by the McLaren dealer in Palo Alto this morning. Holy sh*t. Goes without saying I love my Grand Sport. Great car, no complaints. I like Porsches too. The base Carreras are nice but frankly no more special than the Corvettes. Once you get up to a 911 GTS or GT3, they start to cross that line. But the McLaren 720, that is a special car. The engineering, the build, the interior, the design. Some day, I would *love* to have one - even more so than a Ferrari or Lambo. The sales guy was nice and even offered me a test drive, but I didn't have the time, and I'm worried that it would warp my perception anyway. BTW, the car was $345k and they sell for MSRP.
What part of London were you in that there was a McLaren parade? (I'm going to guess Kensington)
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Old 09-01-2018, 02:56 PM
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Correct. You cannot just "buy" a new GT regardless of the zero's in your bank account.
john cena will sell you his,,,
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Old 09-01-2018, 03:00 PM
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john cena will sell you his,,,
lol it's been sold again by the new owner about a month ago. I believe at auction.
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Old 09-01-2018, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by onebadcad View Post
john cena will sell you his,,,
His "used" one after he settled a lawsuit with Ford for selling it. Like I said $$$ will not get you a new one.

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Old 09-01-2018, 05:28 PM
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lol it's been sold again by the new owner about a month ago. I believe at auction.
$$$ is the third owner of a Used ford gt.

$$$ that couldn't buy a new one, thanks for proving my post!
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:15 PM
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lol it's been sold again by the new owner about a month ago. I believe at auction.
Correction, it sold last weekend for $1.4M at auction.
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sjjames View Post
$$$ is the third owner of a Used ford gt.

$$$ that couldn't buy a new one, thanks for proving my post!
You're basically patting yourself on the back and saying that water is wet, it's pretty common knowledge how Ford picked who it would sell GT's too.

Also, the "no resale" restriction ends 2 years after the initial purchase, so there will probably be more than a few GT owners looking to cash in soon and selling.

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Old 09-02-2018, 01:36 PM
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Correction, it sold last weekend for $1.4M at auction.
Damn!!
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime1996525 View Post


Damn!!
Cena probably had some pretty good advice regarding how to deal with the Ford GT because right now the demand is super high with essentially 0 supply. If Cena's lawyers calculated the cost of being sued by Ford vs able to off-load it at auction at essentially 3x its price...it was probably a positive outcome in the end.

Ford GT values will go down after the no-resale agreement expires (as supply increases), so right now is the best market to take advantage IF you are willing to deal with the headache of being sued by Ford and hopefully your Ford GT will be sold for a much higher value than a settlement with Ford

Long-term value of the GT will remain to be seen, obviously.

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Old 09-02-2018, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder22 View Post
You're basically patting yourself on the back and saying that water is wet, it's pretty common knowledge how Ford picked who it would sell GT's too.

Also, the "no resale" restriction ends 2 years after the initial purchase, so there will probably be more than a few GT owners looking to cash in soon and selling.
Money cannot buy you a new GT regardless of how much you got, the point of my original post. If you want to turn it into something else, have at it.

Yes, not being able to buy new is a major issue for some despite your attempt at denying it.

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Old 09-02-2018, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7 View Post
Cena probably had some pretty good advice regarding how to deal with the Ford GT because right now the demand is super high with essentially 0 supply. If Cena's lawyers calculated the cost of being sued by Ford vs able to off-load it at auction at essentially 3x its price...it was probably a positive outcome in the end.

Ford GT values will go down after the no-resale agreement expires (as supply increases), so right now is the best market to take advantage IF you are willing to deal with the headache of being sued by Ford and hopefully your Ford GT will be sold for a much higher value than a settlement with Ford

Long-term value of the GT will remain to be seen, obviously.
Cena has zero integrity and profited because it. What a great man.
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by onebadcad View Post
$345K cars are sweet, but you cannot park them at a restaurant,
I found this one parked next to a VW at a local public parking lot:


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Old 09-03-2018, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sjjames View Post
Cena has zero integrity and profited because it. What a great man.
Agreed.

I have no dog in the game. Last time I watched WWF (yeah when it was still called that) was in the 8th grade. Don't care much for Cena but he supposedly is very popular.

Shrewed business decision for sure.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy View Post
I found this one parked next to a VW at a local public parking lot:


Weird, why would someone drive around and cover the numbers/letters on their license plate?
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:23 PM
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Weird, why would someone drive around and cover the numbers/letters on their license plate?
That's the best comment you can come up with? Okay, I have a question: Are you the weird one, or are you a deranged comedian? Of course, I'm the one who obliterated the owners plate. That's the only courteous thing to do!

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That's the best comment you can come up with? Okay, I have a question: Are you the weird one, or are you a deranged comedian? Of course, I'm the one who obliterated the owners plate. That's the only courteous thing to do!

Why would you want to cover the numbers on the plate when anyone close enough to the car when they drive by or see it parked can ID the plate?
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:33 PM
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Why would you want to cover the numbers on the plate when anyone close enough to the car when they drive by or see it parked can ID the plate?
Because internet...
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