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Old 11-27-2018, 08:13 AM
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i missed the other GM vehicles being eliminated. but basically following Fords announcement of eliminating passenger cars except for the mustang.

I guess buyers abandoning cars for trucks and SUV's.

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Old 11-27-2018, 03:08 PM
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No, ford and gm just make terrible cars and can't compete.
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I know that many are bashing Trump over this, but IMHO a lot of the problems are attributable to the Obama "administration". They bailed out GM, and according to a 2nd generation GM dealer that's an uncle of one of my friends, when the Government "stepped in", they more than just provided money. They also provided some ill conceived "advice", as part of the deal. This resulted in a lot of crap going on within GM, and we can see the results of it, today. As this point, GM is making a number of cars that people don't want, therefore, they SHOULD be cut....
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I don't think many in the auto industry expected gas prices to stay under $3.00/gallon, and kept moving forward with compacts and hybrids (a reasonable approach with $4.XX gas prices). Regardless, GM, Ford and FCA have always had trouble building smaller cars to compete with the likes of Toyota and Honda, so now the industry is consolidating into their most profitable/best-selling niches - trucks and full-sized SUV's for the domestic brands, compacts and CUV's for the import brands. GM is probably doing the right thing at this point in time, and it has more to do with fuel prices than with either Obama's or Trump's policies.
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In my opinion vehicles today costs so much they are kept longer so consumers are choosing cuvs as they stay-in style longer plus they are more space efficient.

since most are based on car platforms its just a lifted station wagon vehilce that presents itself and its owner as a person who can handle diversity in road conditions etc..

sedans have become a commodity market. Whichever leases are least expensive in the sedan market get chosen. There is very narrow profit margins.

moving to more cuv s and cutting back on sedans is a smart move.

producing more in the market segments that consumers want makes a lot of sense.

cutting back on product in market segments that are rapidly shrinking makes sense.

ev cuv s will be the hottest segment soon...and i believe gm will have quite the ev cuv lineup soon enough...

hopefully they will build here in the USA ...and put back many of the soon to be unemployed gm workers
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In my opinion vehicles today costs so much they are kept longer so consumers are choosing cuvs as they stay-in style longer plus they are more space efficient.
I agree....and also, since there are a finite number of potential buyers, and those buyers are keeping their cars longer, that means that there's less demand, therefore there WILL be cutbacks, somewhere in the supply chain.
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Originally Posted by hungryhippo View Post
No, ford and gm just make terrible cars and can't compete.
This.

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I agree....and also, since there are a finite number of potential buyers, and those buyers are keeping their cars longer, that means that there's less demand, therefore there WILL be cutbacks, somewhere in the supply chain.
7.5 billion people.
New markets buying cars that didn't 5-10 years ago. There's more demand and more demand for good cars.
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..7.5 billion people.
New markets buying cars that didn't 5-10 years ago. There's more demand and more demand for good cars.
But how many of those people are in America?
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But how many of those people are in America?
I'm pretty sure the answer is on this website

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Originally Posted by White Out View Post
I'm pretty sure the answer is on this website
..which re-affirms my point, that there aren't 7.5 billion potential new car buyers in America.
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Originally Posted by hungryhippo View Post
No, ford and gm just make terrible cars and can't compete.
I think Ford and GM have produced some pretty solid vehicles as of late but the profit margin is so slim they've just given up on development. It also doesn't help when some Americans won't buy there cars no matter what they produce. So just get ready for all sedans to be made by foreign manufactures. I'm also guessing once the foreign factories catch up with American Truck technology they'll eat our lunch on that too.

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