Other Cars Non-Corvette Content, Daily Drivers, Winter Beaters, Work Trucks, Tow Vehicles, for sale

GM 1st Gen Lambda SUV problem (Traverse, Enclave, etc.)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-18-2018, 12:04 PM
  #1  
ejscarfo
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
ejscarfo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Shore, NY
Posts: 2,057
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default GM 1st Gen Lambda SUV problem (Traverse, Enclave, etc.)

This forum has never let me down when it comes to questions for my 85 C4 so I figured I'd drop this here and maybe I can get some help as well.

I picked up a nice 2009 Traverse with only 69k miles on it last week. Everything looks like new and it runs and drives great. The only problem I have is lack of audio. There’s no audio coming from the speakers in any mode nor do my directional "click" or do I have chimes, etc. Its all quiet (directionals, backup alarm, door chimes all run thru the door speaker). I knew this was a common problem when I was doing my research so I didn’t care thinking I knew what the problem was and bought the truck anyway. I knew from prior research that water leakage in these trucks is common too so I checked the door plug connectors and water was present on both sides, but only on the rear doors. I dried out the rear connectors and put some dielectric grease on them. From the water leakage, and from what I read on other forums, I was fairly sure the amp was fried and needed to be replaced, the water somehow back feeds and shorts the amp. It has the Bose 10 speaker option in it btw.

So, I replaced the amp over the weekend and still have the same issue, no sound. By the way, changing that amp out is a real PITA for anyone that has to do it. It was easier doing the heater core in my 85 Trans Am during a blizzard with 60mph winds wearing just pj's.

I'm going to test the speakers to see if they are good next, I can't believe all 10 speakers are blown, but if the front door one is shot, then at least I'll start with replacing that. I'm also going to verify power is going to the amp, which means I'm getting under the dash to take the amp out, again. A local shop told me it could also be the head unit and 80% of the time they see this problem, it's the radio that has gone south, like the pre-amp has died. I hate dealing with electrical gremlins, so much for thinking I knew what the problem was when I bought the truck, and I want to avoid the dealer at all costs. They are my last resort.

Anyone has any other tips or suggestions to fix or diagnose this problem, I’m all eyes. I'd be curious to hear if anyone here has one of these trucks and has had this issue and fixed it.

Thanks!
ejscarfo is offline  
Old 12-19-2018, 08:40 AM
  #2  
pjazz
Melting Slicks

 
pjazz's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 2,559
Received 161 Likes on 124 Posts
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
C6 of Year Winner (performance mods) 2019

Default

Are you sure it's a leakage problem as opposed to the car having been in a flood? If it is the head unit I imagine you could get a pretty cheap replacement on ebay.
pjazz is offline  
Old 12-20-2018, 01:29 PM
  #3  
ejscarfo
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
ejscarfo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Shore, NY
Posts: 2,057
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by pjazz
Are you sure it's a leakage problem as opposed to the car having been in a flood? If it is the head unit I imagine you could get a pretty cheap replacement on ebay.
If the car was in a flood, CarFax owes me money LOL....these cars all have water leaks, some worse than others. So far, I've only found water collecting in those rear door connectors. It's rained here for a couple of days straight and those connectors have stayed dry so either my sealing them worked or the car wash was the cause of all the water that I initially found.

New head units are cheap and I planned on doing one soon, I want Apple CarPlay and the radio in there is too old and doesn't even have BT music streaming without the use of an FM modulator. But before I make that jump, I wanted to know more about how the system is wired in case I need to gut it all out. As it's tied to the BCM, that could be problematic.

Last edited by ejscarfo; 12-20-2018 at 01:30 PM.
ejscarfo is offline  
Old 03-05-2019, 03:12 PM
  #4  
ejscarfo
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
ejscarfo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Shore, NY
Posts: 2,057
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default UPDATE - Problem Solved

I've been meaning to post an update to this. I wound up fixing the no sound problem while diagnosing a no rear wiper issue. While fuses were good, the connection was starting to corrode (damn Chinese wiring). I cleaned up the main line into the fuse box and not only did it fix the rear wiper, but sound came back too. It's been over 2 months and so far so good.
ejscarfo is offline  
Old 03-10-2019, 01:27 PM
  #5  
JoesC5
Team Owner
 
JoesC5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: Springfield MO
Posts: 41,733
Received 1,699 Likes on 1,213 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ejscarfo
I've been meaning to post an update to this. I wound up fixing the no sound problem while diagnosing a no rear wiper issue. While fuses were good, the connection was starting to corrode (damn Chinese wiring). I cleaned up the main line into the fuse box and not only did it fix the rear wiper, but sound came back too. It's been over 2 months and so far so good.
The Chinese may have manufactured the wiring, but a GM engineer either designed the wiring or, if the Chinese designed the wiring, GM engineers approved the design.
JoesC5 is offline  
Old 03-13-2019, 04:16 PM
  #6  
ejscarfo
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
ejscarfo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Shore, NY
Posts: 2,057
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by JoesC5
The Chinese may have manufactured the wiring, but a GM engineer either designed the wiring or, if the Chinese designed the wiring, GM engineers approved the design.
Either way, whoever is responsible needs a good kick in the butt. Ever try to pull and / or replace a fuse in one these trucks? Not fun.
ejscarfo is offline  

Get notified of new replies

To GM 1st Gen Lambda SUV problem (Traverse, Enclave, etc.)





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:54 PM.