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Old 03-17-2019, 02:40 PM
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https://www.automobilemag.com/news/c...win-turbo-v-8/

Mine, All Mine: Cadillac Isnít Sharing Its Twin-Turbo Blackwing V-8



The powerful engine will remain exclusive. For now.


The answer to whether Cadillac will share its Blackwing engine with other brands is about as emphatic as it gets: ďOver my dead body,Ē Cadillac President Steve Carlisle tells us.
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Old 03-17-2019, 10:54 PM
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Well, which caddys are getting this engine? The CTS-V and CT6-V? Wasn't the CT6 cancelled? How many units of these V sedans are going to sell "exclusively" with this engine? Very few. Caddy, like the rest of GM, is going to be an SUV company. So unless the XT6 gets a V model, and the Escalade gets this engine, my advice to them is - don't build too many if you aren't using it in the C8, because the V sedan sales aren't going to put up any big sales numbers.
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:02 PM
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Well, which caddys are getting this engine? The CTS-V and CT6-V? Wasn't the CT6 cancelled? How many units of these V sedans are going to sell "exclusively" with this engine? Very few. Caddy, like the rest of GM, is going to be an SUV company. So unless the XT6 gets a V model, and the Escalade gets this engine, my advice to them is - don't build too many if you aren't using it in the C8, because the V sedan sales aren't going to put up any big sales numbers.
The CT6 is not discontinued. It accidentally got caught up in that report of all the plant closings and car cancellations. Also, you can get a detuned Blackwing on the regular CT6 too. Not just the V. This engine will be used in several Cadillacs including the Escalade. It will probably be used in the CT5-V as well, and maybe a detuned version in the CT5 V-Sport. There are many Cadillscs that this engine will be in.
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca View Post
Well, which caddys are getting this engine? The CTS-V and CT6-V? Wasn't the CT6 cancelled? How many units of these V sedans are going to sell "exclusively" with this engine? Very few. Caddy, like the rest of GM, is going to be an SUV company. So unless the XT6 gets a V model, and the Escalade gets this engine, my advice to them is - don't build too many if you aren't using it in the C8, because the V sedan sales aren't going to put up any big sales numbers.
The CT6 is living on, and the CT6 will Ben available with a detuned Blackwing V8. The CT6-V will have the high-output Blackwing, but it was originally slated for less than 300 units of production. The car sold out within a week or two, so they just recently decided to bump the price up by $4,000 and build an unspecified amount more CT6-Vs.

The CT6 is a pure luxury car, and the Blackwing is a high-performance luxury engine. The Blackwing was designed to produce tons of torque from low RPM to redline while maintaining a smooth and responsive character. Itís not about going fast or pushing the limits of performance sedans.

With that said, Iíd expect to see the Blackwing or itís detuned variant in the Escalade, CT5, the XT7/8, and the CT7/8. However, a more performance-focused engine with more power and less torque should make its way to the Cadillac V models, unless they donít care about competing with BMW, Mercedes-AMG, Porsche, Audi, Lexus, and Jaguar.

Where the Blackwing would never work is in the C8. Itís too refined and too focused on the lower RPM range. Itíd be great around town but disappointing when you try to drive it like a sports car. They could have used the Blackwing architecture to create other DOHC V8s, but with flipped heads and higher RPM.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:51 AM
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That statement can be correct and the engine could still end up in the c8. Just by moving the torbos out of the V the engine would get a different code number for installation in the Corvette. It is semantics.
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They'll take the "blackwing" and flip the heads and call it something else, but it will still be the same engine platform.
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The last Cadillac Pres to say that landed up applying for unemployment. Just Sayin'
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Originally Posted by Quinten33 View Post
The CT6 is living on, and the CT6 will Ben available with a detuned Blackwing V8. The CT6-V will have the high-output Blackwing, but it was originally slated for less than 300 units of production. The car sold out within a week or two, so they just recently decided to bump the price up by $4,000 and build an unspecified amount more CT6-Vs.

The CT6 is a pure luxury car, and the Blackwing is a high-performance luxury engine. The Blackwing was designed to produce tons of torque from low RPM to redline while maintaining a smooth and responsive character. Itís not about going fast or pushing the limits of performance sedans.

With that said, Iíd expect to see the Blackwing or itís detuned variant in the Escalade, CT5, the XT7/8, and the CT7/8. However, a more performance-focused engine with more power and less torque should make its way to the Cadillac V models, unless they donít care about competing with BMW, Mercedes-AMG, Porsche, Audi, Lexus, and Jaguar.

Where the Blackwing would never work is in the C8. Itís too refined and too focused on the lower RPM range. Itíd be great around town but disappointing when you try to drive it like a sports car. They could have used the Blackwing architecture to create other DOHC V8s, but with flipped heads and higher RPM.
What specifically makes the Blackwing unsuitable for high performance?
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A thread moved from C8 to CFOT.
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The last Cadillac Pres to say that landed up applying for unemployment. Just Sayin'
I bet the new president actually knows why the previous president got fired. If the previous president got fired because he said the Blackwing was a Cadillac only engine, then it would be pretty stupid for the new president to voice the state sentiments, wouldn't it, if he knew it could get him fired?

Has the new president been fired?
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Originally Posted by roadbike56 View Post
A thread moved from C8 to CFOT.
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These maroons post the most nonsensical crap in that section and this relevant topic got moved? Mods be trippin'...
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I bet the new president actually knows why the previous president got fired. If the previous president got fired because he said the Blackwing was a Cadillac only engine, then it would be pretty stupid for the new president to voice the state sentiments, wouldn't it, if he knew it could get him fired?

Has the new president been fired?
Give it time.
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Give it time.
He might be fired, but I doubt it will because of what he says about the Backwing being a Cadillac only engine.

At the Detroit show in January 2013, Tadge told a group of journalists from the UK that the NEW C7 would be available in RHD.

Of course it hit the papers in Australia.

The very next day, the number 2 man at GM released a press release stating that the C7 would not be available in a RHD. As we all know the C7 was never released in a RHD configuration and Tadge was not fired for saying it was. going to be.

It takes a little more than saying something might or might not happen, to get a top dog fired.

I would guess that the reason the last Cadillac president was fired was because the division was underperforming, and it appeared nothing was going to help the situation under his leadership, not because he said the Blackwing was a Cadillac only engine.

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